commander 2000 tilt & trim

[bully0046]

Hi all,

I have been having issues for the last couple of days, I have just installed a commander 2000, I have a mariner 75 2007 2 stoke, the tilt & trim works fine using the switch on the engine, however when pressing the switch on the commander nothing happens not even a click?

The commander 2000 is new so it cannot be the switch on that?

any help on this would be greatly received

Cheers,

Bully

 

[Texasmark]

Re: commander 2000 tilt & trim

Does it have one or two engine connectors, one a male with 8 ea. round pins and a second with 3 flat female sockets, both circular in shape. If you have two the second one is for PTT.

If you have only one, along with the wrapped harness containing the 8 pin plug that mates to the engine socket will be some individual wires tye wrapped to the harness. One is green/white stripe, the other blue. Look in your engine around your engine harness connector for the mates to these two wires of a like color. If you don't find them, go to your TT relays and follow the wires (of those colors) back to mate with the wires on the harness from the control box.

Mark

 

[bully0046]

Re: commander 2000 tilt & trim

Does it have one or two engine connectors, one a male with 8 ea. round pins and a second with 3 flat female sockets, both circular in shape. If you have two the second one is for PTT.

If you have only one, along with the wrapped harness containing the 8 pin plug that mates to the engine socket will be some individual wires tye wrapped to the harness. One is green/white stripe, the other blue. Look in your engine around your engine harness connector for the mates to these two wires of a like color. If you don't find them, go to your TT relays and follow the wires (of those colors) back to mate with the wires on the harness from the control box.

Mark

Thanks mate,

I have the single harness, do you mean the wires hanging just before the harness conection? I think there are 3 - 4 of them

I will check tomorrow and keep you updated, many Thanks

Bully

 

[Texasmark]

Re: commander 2000 tilt & trim

Thanks mate,

I have the single harness, do you mean the wires hanging just before the harness conection? I think there are 3 - 4 of them

I will check tomorrow and keep you updated, many Thanks

Bully

Yes!

On 3 I would go for Tan or Tan/blue stripe being the 3rd color and is used to plug into a temp sender in the engine and go to an after market dash temp gauge. Most engines have the normal Tan or Tan/blue wire to the control box (pin 3 of the 8 pin engine connector) to operate the horn inside the control for an OT warning. This wire attached to pin 3 sends out information from an over temp bi-metallic strip that shorts out (to the engine block....ground) at around 195F, opens back up at around 170. But other engines have an additional output from an analog temp sensor in the engine that operates an analog temp meter installed in the dash as an after market extra. That is the wire outside the harness, dangling.

The other could be brown/white stripe which is also a harness bypassed (dangling) wire that feeds from a trim indicator, for engines with trim position indicators like an I/O, and routs up to the area of the controller, but is outside the harness and is available at the dash to connect to a trim indicator...most, probably all OB's don't have trim position transmitters so moot point.

The information herein is not mine, rather from my service manual Merc P/N 90-830234R3.

Mark

 

[oldman570]

Re: commander 2000 tilt & trim

Does it have one or two engine connectors, one a male with 8 ea. round pins and a second with 3 flat female sockets, both circular in shape. If you have two the second one is for PTT.

If you have only one, along with the wrapped harness containing the 8 pin plug that mates to the engine socket will be some individual wires tye wrapped to the harness. One is green/white stripe, the other blue. Look in your engine around your engine harness connector for the mates to these two wires of a like color. If you don't find them, go to your TT relays and follow the wires (of those colors) back to mate with the wires on the harness from the control box.

Mark

^1+ Best for the commander 2000
Oldman570

 

[bully0046]

Re: commander 2000 tilt & trim

Hi,

I have just been down to the boat, disconnected the tilt switch on the engine, pluged the G/W & B/W into the harness, bingo the switch on the control box works, so this now leaves the engine switch not working.

Just one question, could I remove the 2 bullet connectors on the engine switch & the harness then join both G/W & B/W into one bullet conector so that the engine tilt switch will work on the engine & the control box switch?


Thanks,

Bully

 

[bully0046]

Re: commander 2000 tilt & trim

Like this?

 

[Texasmark]

Re: commander 2000 tilt & trim

Your picture didn't copy to my computer.

The engine wiring diagram shows that the control wires from the relays go to a junction where they go two places. One is on to the engine mounted trim switch and the other is the interface to the wiring harness from the control....the wires we talked about earlier. This puts both control switches in parallel meaning that either can power up the respective relay.

What it seems you did was to break the circuit in the wrong place. You have all the players, you just need to get them lined up properly.

The junction could be nothing more than a bullet Y encased in clear silicon where the three wires interconnect.

As I said you have all the players just get them all tied together. If you can't find the junction, then go to an auto parts store and get a couple of Y bayonet connectors of the proper sex....probably 3 females, and hook them all up, blue/white to all 3 blue/white and the same for the other wires colored green/white. Then cover it with something to water proof it.

HTH,
Mark

 

[bully0046]

Re: commander 2000 tilt & trim

Thanks Mark

Will have a look today

 

[Texasmark]

Re: commander 2000 tilt & trim

Like this?

Yeah. You are looking at your Y connection on the left. One lead goes to the relay and the other lead goes to the control cable wiring for each respective color (blue and green). Really doesn't matter which is which, but being sexed, obviously you have to get the right plug in the right socket just as long as you keep the colors together. Otherwise when you push up it will go down sort of thing.

Looks like your problem just disappeared.

Mark

 

[bully0046]

Re: commander 2000 tilt & trim

I didnt have any Y conectors in the engine, from what I could see/find, anyway so I made the above, works a treat!

Many Thanks Mark.

Cheers,

Bully

 

[Texasmark]

Re: commander 2000 tilt & trim

Great!