Bruce, I have been quick to say since they broke into the "Top 25" that they were over rated. They are a young team. I am not sure I like them going to the B1G championship game. Wisconsin is a good team. I am now concerned this VERY young team could end the season with 2 losses. PSU will lose 3 starters and 7 of their 3 deep depth chart players (and a couple of those have been missing with season ending injuries). I want them to end strong for a good start for NEXT year. A win my Michigan would have probably given them a good bowl game against Western Michigan. That said, somehow PSU keeps winning after their 2-2 start. Joe Morehead has been a great acquisition at offensive coordinator and this coaching staff has made GREAT half time adjustments all year. I don't think Penn State deserves the ranking they have, but then I look around at some of the other teams and their rankings and say, why not? Oh, and the Rose Bowl would be MUCH better bowl than I ever thought they would go to at the start of the season ... my prediction was 7-5, 8-4 at the VERY best. So, I am very happy with 10-2. Am I allowed to be happy my team has performed way better than expected?