coil assembly and ignition coil assembly

joho5

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When I look at parts for a 15 evinrude...it has both. My 9.5 Johnson only has the coils underneath the flywheel.

Do some motors have both of these and if so what is the purpose of the one that is not under the flywheel.

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tashasdaddy

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Re: coil assembly and ignition coil assembly

different designs. some have both. you have to look at the diagram for your model #.
 

joho5

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Re: coil assembly and ignition coil assembly

does one of them usually install out from underneath the flywheel if it has both.

the 76 15hp evinrude I am looking at shows both in the diagram.

what is the purpose of them both. I dont understand why there would need to be 2 coils.
 

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Re: coil assembly and ignition coil assembly

Charging coils and ignition coils are not the same thing.
 

joho5

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Re: coil assembly and ignition coil assembly

is one prone to need to be changed out vs the other?

I just know when I get this motor, its not getting fire on 1 cylinder. First thing I will check is the points and condensers because it is easy and cheap.

if it still has the problems I will check the coils, but which one would I need to check if the motor has both?

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Re: coil assembly and ignition coil assembly

I would change them all.
If you can't afford that, inspect them visually, if they're cracking they're going. Look them over closely, they can crack on the bottom or the backside.

If they don't spark they're likely shot, test by swapping one coil with the cylinder that does spark.

Spark leads can be epoxied into a coil, test to make sure it fires first, then epoxy it.
 

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Re: coil assembly and ignition coil assembly

Your 9.5 has the OMC "Universal Magneto" that was used for many, many, years. It has two coils under the flywheel. Each of those coils has both a primary winding for generating the electricity and a secondary winding for boosting the primary voltage up to the thousands of volts required to fire the spark plugs.

Not knowing the year of your 15, they had two other types of igniton: "Low Tension Magneto", and "Capacitor Discharge Ignition".

Low Tension Magnetos have just one primary coil under the flywheel, which generates the electricity. The two secondary coils are mounted outside. They work more or less the same as the Universal Magneto, except the secondary parts are re-located.

Capacitor Discharge Ignition is a whole different ball game. A "charge coil" under the flywheel generates 300 volts, as contrasted to the Universal's approximately 6 volts. That 300 volts is stored in a capacitor inside a unit called a power pack. Another unit under the flywheel called a sensor figures out when it it is time to fire the spark plug and sends a signal to the power pack. That signal tells the power pack to discharge the 300 volts from the capacitor to one of the externally mounted spark coils where it is boosted to the thousands of volts required to fire the plug. The obvious big difference here is the spark coils are driven by 300 volts instead of 6 volts.

Hope this helps without getting too technical.
 

joho5

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Re: coil assembly and ignition coil assembly

it does, but if I am on somewhat of a budget, would I look at changing out the ones under the magneto, or the ones mounted outside.

I guess I have to check and see if it has both.

which ones usually go bad first, the externally mounted ones, or the ones under the flywheel?
 

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Re: coil assembly and ignition coil assembly

as they said, I would swap the coils under the flywheel and see if the cyl that is firing swaps also. That tells you which one is failed, without spending any money. Now you know which to replace.
 

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Re: coil assembly and ignition coil assembly

There is only one primary coil under the flywheel on the Low Tension and CD ignitions. It supplies voltage to both spark coils. So if it is a no spark issue on just one, it isn't the primary coil.

But there are two sets of points under there on the Low Tension system. Don't overlook the obvious.
 

joho5

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Re: coil assembly and ignition coil assembly

FR your last post made it more clearly to me. There is 1 under there and then 2 on the outside.

I can figure that out...the points will not be a problem for me to switch out.

thanks tons
 
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