Chaparrals@ Houston Boat Show

Joshua Nichols

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Well I fell in love with the new Chaparral's.. Price is very competitive for such a goodlooking rig with a galvanized tandem trailer with surge brakes.. I was shocked that they cost less than a comparable Four Winns..
Seems like everything comes with a wakeboard tower:facepalm:
Mariah.. Never heard of em, but a slick looking tub and super affordable..

Hoping to replace the Four Winns before too long with something with a V8 and a bravo3.. No replacement for displacement..
 

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You will love the Chaparral even more after you ride in one. They are awesome boats with excellent build quality. On the water you really feel like you have a substantial boat under you. Have you looked at any one or two year old used Chaps, they are substantially less and with the quality of boat they make, a 2 year old will still look brand new unless someone really abused it. Might be a way to get a little bigger boat.
 

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I have a 2001 Chaparral and love it. Prior to this I owned a Mariah (the original manufacturer prior to their bankrupcy) and a Sea Ray. I talk up the Chaparral every chance I get, I have a friend with a newer Four Winns and that boat has impressed me also. The "new" mariahs are entry level and if you are looking to move up I would pass on them. If you've never driven a BIII you are in for a treat, especially around the dock. Be careful the first time you put it in reverse, the extra bite really stops the boat quickly.
 

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Which Chap models are you considering?
 

Joshua Nichols

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The 206 ssi? It's a long boat and really bigger than we need since it won't fit in the garage, but we really want the rear walk though rather than climb over a sun deck.. Also.. You gotta go 20ft or better to get a V8 and a bravo3.. The trailer is super nice.. Should pull really nice in compared to the homemade P.O.S that my tub sits on now..
They are slick looking.... As far as the Mariha being entry level... Does that mean bells and whistles? Because they will rig it up with whatever you want...
I tried to look at the seadoo supercharged boats.. No one there knew how much one cost or anything about them.. I could just see myself never getting hung up in shallow water again...:p
 

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And monthly repair bills with the Sea Doo boat.
 

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As far as the Mariha being entry level... Does that mean bells and whistles? Because they will rig it up with whatever you want...
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No, I mean fit/finish quality of materials like the vinyl used for the seats, having gel coated bilges and things like that. See this review... http://www.boatingmag.com/boats/sport/chaparral-246-ssi This is a much bigger and more expensive boat, but it will give you an idea of some of the things to look for. I don't mean to ding the new Mariahs (since I haven't owned one), but when Mariah first came on the market, they set their sights at building a boat of Cobalt quality (very highly regarded and expensive). I owned one and think they originally came close to this goal. Heavy, very well built boat, great vinyl, double stiched seems etc and lot's of attention to detail. But this company went belly up in the late 90's (combination of bad market and poor dealer network). The molds were sold, and since then, they reduced some of the good parts of the original boats to compete with entry level boats. As a boat owner you know, things like seat bases, how the seats are constructed, the type of vinyl and stiching used on the seats, hinges etc are probably the most important things in a boat. I would compare these things on the boats I was considering very cafefully. One thing I always point out and really like about chaparrals, is that the hatches are guttered with overboard drains. Since you've already pointed out the rear entry, I think this would also be one of the most important items for a "fun" boat. Do the Mariahs have this? I've not seen one of their smaller boats with one.
 

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Yeah they got the rear entry cut out.http://www.mariah-boats.com/mariah.html.. Doesn't matter.. The gal likes the Chaparral.. I am going to have a eye out for a used one set up like I want... I would love to go new, on the fact I don't have to deal with some BS hole some jerk put in it to install his gps depthfinder he removed before the sell. The 5k less is very tempting and I am sure how it will go down... They are great looking boats...
 

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After that last post, I looked at both the mariah and 2010 chap 206 SSi (wide tech) on line and saw they had. I assume you were looking at 206SSi wide tech. D@mn nice looking boat! The bow seemed to be shallow on the Mariah, although they both say they are the same weight. Chaparral has a couple of dings against ordering a new one, they list snap in carpet (a must have) and canvas (another must have in my opinion) as options. I have the carpet package that includes canvas for the swim platform (very nice). I was surprised that Chaparral did not list an extended swim platform as an option. I have one and think it's also a must have.... See pic
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That is a lot of swim platform... I also noticed when looking at them.. You have to special order the retractable cleats.. I have never had any retractables but sure feel like they would be the way to go... I like the idea that you can fill with fuel from either side.. That is just a cool idea... Kudos to them from coming up with that one
 

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Chaparral is a great boat. Mine is 19 years old and runs/handles like a new boat. The quality, workmanship, and attention to detail are very impressive. My motor purrs like a kitten and screams like an eagle:D. It's all in the maintainance/upkeep. The hull designs havn't changed very much. If you find a properly maintained 10 year old Chaparral, you'll probably be as happy with it as a new one. The only way a newer Chaparral would hold any attraction for me, is if we're talking about a 26-28' cruiser;). You will not be disappointed with a Chaparral.
 

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I have a old boat... 23 years old.. Runs great... I do wish it had some stuff that the new ones do... I wish it had fuel injection and rear walk-though. As far as running on the water it's like being in a Cadillac.. Hauls boody too.. Only 17ft with the 4.3l

Going new or newer I can have the things I want... Bravo3..V8...Rear walkthough
 

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Am going to attend the Atlanta boat show today and plan on checking out several boats. Not planning on replacing the Chris Craft yet, but maybe in 10 years, I'll buy a new "Used" Cabin Cruiser. I'll post pics after i get back from the show...
 

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Chaps are nice boats. They have been for quite some time. I looked at a few at the Atlanta Boat show over the weekend. I'm not a fan of the interior design or feel of the vinyl of the seats of the ones I looked at.

On the subject of the older Mariah's... They didnt shut down due to bankruptcy as in not selling boats. As far as them comparing "close" to Cobalts I think if you compare the same year Mariah and Cobalts you may be surprised on how "close" they got to that. I'll gladly compare my Mariah fit and finish to ANY other brand of the same caliber and year boat. We all have our preferences and with the exception of a few features my 97' still compares to current boats. That says alot for a 14 year old boat.
 

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nothing wrong with chaps.........great boat. super resale.....look and feel fantastic. i highly reccomend them.

havent seen many of the new mariahs......our boat show is a month away and havent seen any except on the lake.

but one thing about the cobalt.........there is no one that spends more time on the molds, each boat. than cobalt......the gell is flawless.
 

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On the subject of the older Mariah's... They didnt shut down due to bankruptcy as in not selling boats. As far as them comparing "close" to Cobalts I think if you compare the same year Mariah and Cobalts you may be surprised on how "close" they got to that. I'll gladly compare my Mariah fit and finish to ANY other brand of the same caliber and year boat. We all have our preferences and with the exception of a few features my 97' still compares to current boats. That says alot for a 14 year old boat.

Can you read? From my post in this thread "when Mariah first came on the market, they set their sights at building a boat of Cobalt quality (very highly regarded and expensive). I owned one and think they originally came close to this goal. Heavy, very well built boat, great vinyl, double stiched seems etc and lot's of attention to detail. But this company went belly up in the late 90's (combination of bad market and poor dealer network)." ...... I owned a 94 240Z Talari and was featured in one of their first "owner" magazines. I was in the market for a Sea Ray or Cobalt and chose Mariah because they were $10k cheaper with virtually the same quality. Mariah went belly up because they let most anyone start a dealership and gave the dealers boats with a guarantee that Mariah would buy them back if they could not sell them. The economy softened and they were looking at getting several 100 boats in a very short period of time and Jimmy Fulks decided to cash in an walk. From the St Louis Business Business Journal - "Fulks also said in the letter that numerous retail dealership failures recently had forced Mariah to repurchase $4 million to $5 million worth of boats from wholesale lenders." Technically, Fulks did not declare Bankrupcy, he walked from his loans and appointed a receiver to liquidate things......Older Mariahs are great boats, it's the new ones that are on the entry level side.
 

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Can you read?

I can read very well thank you very much. First the company didnt shut down till 01' and not late 90's as you mentioned. There are many opinions on why he chose to shut the company down. My personal opinion is it had something to do with not being able to get an extension of the tax break they were given when he built the company in Benton. Maybe there were other underlying issues as well. Either way to say the company went belly up while technically correct implies something else. It wasnt shut down due to not selling boats or any quality issues which some may read into from your words. It also wasnt shut down by the banks showing up with padlocks. I am simply clearing that up for anyone who would have questions or be curious. I would certainly question buying something from a company if I knew they went out of business due to quality or other similar means. Mariah closed shop due to the owners choice of which nobody really knows.
 

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Wow that is a sharp looking Mariah. I so rarely see them that if you didn't have the year next to it, Id swear it was a mid 2000's model.

To the op, just keep in mind as I have discovered, my wife nor my kids care whether it says Chaparral or Bayliner on the side. The nice boat factor is for me and my ego ignoring the handling differences of a better built boat. Most of the newest boats are so nice, you really have to be in the know to even recognize what's what out there.
 

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I can read very well thank you very much. ....... Mariah closed shop due to the owners choice of which nobody really knows.

Glad you can read, just curious, which post did you read that said older mariahs were bad? And having NOT SOLD a couple million dollars worth of boats was one of the primary reason Fulks decided to walk. Had nothing to do with quality, just a bad business decison to offer to buy back unsold boats. You may want to visit this site. You can read in detail why Fulks walked, when things started to go bad and why. This is also a good site for all original mariah owners...... http://www.mariahownersclub.com/forum/original-mariah-boats-inc/
I see you are in Atlanta, if you boat on Lake Lanier and are ever on Thompson Creek, we're located just behind the 8TH marker, double slip dock, stop by and have a beer.
 

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I also liked the Mariah's pre-shutdown, but the newer models are cheap-looking. The Mariahs were close to the Cobalt quality, not exact, but close. I always liked the 90's designs from Mariah. The Chap's have also been excellent value overall. I'd take the new Chap over a new Mariah hands-down. I'm a sucker for a Cobalt though!
 
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