carb problem 87 force 125

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New to the forum...Have a simple question. When I am out on the water, and I let the boat sit for a while, then go to start...it will fire up then die. won't start again unless you manual choke the top carb. Anybody have a clue as to why I am having this problem? I have already adjusted the carbs according to the owners manual. It didn't help.....can you?
 

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Re: carb problem 87 force 125

How do you manually choke just the top carb? They should be linked so choke one = choke both.
 

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Re: carb problem 87 force 125

Just reach in and close the top butterfly...But for some reason when you use the elec. choke witch chokes both carbs it will not start...
 

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Re: carb problem 87 force 125

These engines do not have a temperature isolator between the carbs and block. Consequently, upon prolonged sitting, some of them will vaporize fuel out of the carb bowl, making the level too low for consistent starting.
Heat rises, so the top carb would be expected to be more affected.

If you choke both carbs, the engine is still warm, and will flood. When you choke only one carb, the lower one fires those two cylinders and carries the engine until the top one clears itself. Then, the top is firing and carries the bottom until it gets enough fuel for consistent running. This happens in a matter of seconds.

However: you did not give engine year but as said above, choke butterflies are linked; close one and you close both. Or is the screw loose or the link rod missing so only one choke is closing with the switch?

Try priming the carbs with the bulb and see if it helps. OR: You didn't say you tried it but if not, start the engine in fast idle without choking it.

The other thing that comes to mind is: Are the low speed needles set too lean? And are the equal? Those engines usually like about 1 turn out from lightly seated. And depending upon the manual, setting the low speed needles by manual instructions MAY get them too lean. Best idle setting is NOT the best running setting. With the engine warmed up and in gear, on the water, give it full throttle (hole shot) If it bogs down and almost dies, then picks up again, it is too lean.
 

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Re: carb problem 87 force 125

It could be the choke solenoid is not closing the chokes fully-either adjustment or a faulty solenoid. My uncle has a 89 force 125 and just returned from the lake texoma region where he did not even get to fish because his boat would not start. Almost 200 dollars was spent down there by him for a tune up and I don't know what else to try to cure his "no start" and when he returned yesterday, *very disheartened* I looked it over ,checked the linkage for free movement, and found the choke just barely moving at all- there was only 3.7 volts at the solenoid on his engine( with the choke pushed in at the ign switch) and of course, it was not closing fully-just a little bit. The circuit breaker would *pop*reset the breaker. Taking the wire off allowed a full 12 volts to it. I tried a car headlamp as a load to make shure the wire could carry the current- it did- and no more tripping the breaker. To make doubly shure, I tried a test wire directly to positive straight to the solenoid and just tried touching the terminal to see if it would work and it did not- it just sparked. after a couple calls ,I located a used solenoid-he went and got it and I will put it on for him later today.:)
 

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Re: carb problem 87 force 125

Thanks guy's

I will check all the things here and see if it works...Great sight with very good people...Thanks again!!
 
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