Capital "punishment"?

[Fishbusters]

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Carlin has it right the way he wants to do things. Wall off 5 areas and place criminals within the walls based on their type of crimes for example rapists, child molesters and such together. Murderers, intent to murder and such you know violent crimes in another. Drug dealers, addicts and such in another and finally one for the rest. Once a year you open a gate letting them into a 5th area full of baseball bats, liquor, drugs and such and let nature take it's course. I think eventually you will have a handful left and then you can just flood the 5th area. Of course all the areas have pay per view live cameras in them to fund upkeep and such. Can you imagine the entertainment value?<br />Just kidding folks I wanted to lighten this up a little. It is a big deal putting someone to death for their crimes but I believe sometimes it is the only way to keep the rest of us safe. I believe that justice system does the best it is allowed to do although it is slanted toward the benefit of the criminal. My problem with it all is I would prefer to see some guilty walk than one innocent fry.

 

[Beaux]

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Thank God Ohio doesn't have a governor like Illinois's former. Otherwise, this sicko would have been included in the gov.'s "decision" to make broad changes to the laws of his state for political and personal gain. <br /> death row inmate gets whats coming to him

 

[JB]

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I think it is pretty far fetched to suppose this person would have gotten anything but life without parole.<br /><br />Whether execution is a worse sentence, as far as punishment goes, than LWP, is worth debating but it would get into religion, and those debates will never end or be settled.<br /><br />If, for example, you believe that there is no afterlife it seems to me that you would view death as escape, rather than more severe punishment.

 

[Beaux]

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Jb- you are right...you would think that if you believe in no afterlife (good or bad) then it would be better to die. But, in most cases that is not how human beings respond to such a situation. I promise you that those guys were relieved (even the atheists) as almost all humans have a natural instinct to want to survive. Life as an inmate is much better than death. Why do you think all but a handful appeal and appeal. Even the ones that admit the crimes they are sentenced for and proclaim guilt are appealing to have their sentences reduced to life b/c of a bad childhood,etc. They are not asking for freedom, just to get a life sentence so they can live on. I think for most humans the choice is obvious no matter what religious beliefs you have or dont have. I have experience with the mindset of these guys b/c I worked for the department of corrections for three years and knew/had a few inmate workers that were murderers work side by side with me. Those guys were definitely glad they got life verses death sentences. I respect your view, I have just been personally involved with some of these types and some deserve no mercy and others do. Thats why I support life sentences, manslaughter verdicts, etc for crimes that dont fall into the catagory deserving the death sentence. But the point I wanted to make with the above link was that this guy would have gotten a life sentence instead of his WELL DESERVED death sentence. The state would have had to feed,provide medical and dental (free), house, dress and give recreational opportunities for this guy his entire life. My main problem with the Gov.'s decision was that he grouped every death penalty case together in his sentence changing fiasco.

 

[RICKRICK1]

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I support the death penalty and am against life without parole. This is just another drain on the tax paying public. Life without parole should be changed to the death penalty. I know that there will be some "innocent" folks convicted, but the majority found guilty should pay for there crimes to the fullest extent of the law. I see no reason for a crime to have a minimum and maximum sentence. If convicted and the crime says 20 years then thats what they get with no reduction for time served or parole.<br /><br />my .02.

 

[JB]

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You make a couple of good points, Beaux.<br /><br />First, I sometimes forget that survival is the prime instinct. As we get older and survive life threatening events many of us come to terms with death and don't fear it any more.<br /><br />Second, that guy definitely meets my "If there is no doubt, kill 'em and do it quickly" criterion.

 

[Greasie]

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As I'm typing, the Oprah show is on with an interview of the former death row inmates and former Governor jim ryan. Having a hard time stomaching it. My question to ryan --- can or will you commute the death sentance that inmate (fill in name) imposed on my son, daughter, or???

 

[Greasie]

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P.S.<br /> I'm glad former Governor ryan wasn't leaving office when John Wayne Gacy took a nap after 13 years on DR.

 

[Skinnywater]

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To bad that after a convicted capitol murder creep that has gotten his bonafide accurate day in court. That the victims closest family wasn't given the call on life without or death. Multiple victims, simple vote yay or nay.<br /><br />It wouldn't be a bad idea to have the death penalty for any convicted corrupt officer of the court either.