Can I do it

[Billnicole]

I have a 93 toyota pickup 22re motor. Im looking to buy a 17 foot boat and I will be trailering it short distances the truck is 4wd. I dont have the manuel for it so I just want to know does anyone have this kind of truck and how much can you tow?? Im thinking the boats im looking at are anywere from 17 to 24 hundred pounds.<br /><br />Thanks Bill

 

[JB]

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Hi, Bill.<br /><br />I'm pretty sure that the answer is no. I assume that you mean can you do it safely.<br /><br />Your Toy dealer can tell you what the tow rating is on your truck with the equipment it has. Unless it is automatic and has a towing package I would expect the tow rating to be 2,000lb or less.<br /><br />Most 17 foot boats, ready to launch, will weigh 2,000lb or more on the trailer.<br /><br />Find out the correct tow rating on your truck and the correct weight of the package, including trailer.<br /><br />Good luck.

 

[lakeman1999]

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I f you are carefull, and take it easy, and do not have to tow too far, why not, go for it.

 

[tylerin]

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Because I might be in front of him

 

[paulgp6022]

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I have a Nissan pick up 4x4 1997 model with a 4 cylinder in it and a 5 speed manual tranny. My tow rating in my manual is 7000lbs (sounds high, I know). Your truck is pretty much the same as mine. I did have a class 2 hitch that bolts to the frame installed though. I tow my 16ft boat, motor, and trailer which is over 2000 lbs with no problems. Go for it you will be fine.

 

[JB]

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How can people be so foolish!! Boasting about unsafe practices!!<br /><br />A Toyota is not a Nissan. <br /><br />Tow ratings are there to protect lives. Have an accident (they do not only happen to the other guy) when towing over rating and you are vulnerable to criminal negligence charges as well as liable for all damages. Watch your insurance company disappear.<br /><br />You can pull that boat with a riding mower, but to recommend it to someone else would be unforgivably stupid. Minnow is probably over the rating of his hitch, and I'll bet his truck is not equipped to tow 7,000lb. That rating must be qualified with a "if equipped with. . . ." which he seems to have overlooked.<br /><br />Find out the tow rating of your truck, with the equipment it has, find out the weight of your boat/trailer, and do not take advice from daredevils.

 

[paulgp6022]

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Unless my manual is a missprint, then my ratings are correct. With the automatic trans the rating drops to 6000lbs. It also says that if the trailer is more than 3000lbs, then it must have brakes on it. A Toyota and Nissan are both compact pickups with 4x4. As long as a class 2 receiver is installed to the frame, he will be fine. My friend had the same year Toyota truck, and he towed a 19ft to North Carolina every summer for 5 years, no accidents.<br /><br />I wouldn't suggest dangerous info to anyone! Just because someone doesn't have a quad cab diesel dual axel V-8, doesn't mean they can't tow anything. My truck is very stable and doesn't pose a threat to any other motorists. If I had a scanner I would scan the tow rating page from my manual.

 

[JB]

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I apologize, Minnow. I over-reacted. In the past there have been too many, "I towed Titanic with my Yugo." stories here.<br /><br />What is your problem with finding out the tow rating and weighing the tow? It is simple to do and it is accurate. It is the ONLY way to KNOW that you are within the design parameters of your truck.

 

[paulgp6022]

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I don't understand??

 

[JB]

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You suggested that Bill's Toy is equivalent to your Nissan, that he assume so, and "go for it" without doing the sensible thing.<br /><br />That suggests that you don't think it is necessary to know what his truck is rated for or what his trailer weighs.<br /><br />If, in fact, his truck is rated for over 2,000lb. and in fact his tow weighs less than the tow rating he will probably be okay.<br /><br />You don't know those facts, neither does Bill, neither do I.<br /><br />When lives and safety are at stake, it is facts that Bill needs, not guesses. Facts are easy to get.<br /><br />My question was, "Why do you seem to think that getting facts is unnecessary?"

 

[paulgp6022]

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Toyota and Nissan are the same class of truck (compact). They are both 4x4, both have front disc brakes, both are 4 cylinders. Unless his trailer is over 3000lbs (doubtful), then he won't need brakes on it. I'm willing to bet that that Toyota truck can tow the same amount as my Nissan.

 

[nitsuj]

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My dad had a 96 Toyota, it was rated at 3500. It was the v6, but I doubt that affects tow rating, and I'd bet the 93 was rated the same. I used it to pull my 16.5 foot Glastron with a 115 Johnson. It doged up hills, but handled and stopped just fine. There isn't anything to argue about really. Bill needs to call his dealer, if the truck is rated high enough to pull the boat, then go for it, if it isn't, then the answer is no. I have a hard believing the Toyota is rated at less than 2000 though, my little Wrangler is rated at 2000 pounds.

 

[paulgp6022]

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Was that rating off the ball on the bumper or a class 2 hitch off the frame? I wouldn't tow anything off the bumber one.<br /><br />P.S Mine dogs on hills too!<br />P.S.S I'll bet Bill is out fishing while we are here debating his tow rating! lol

 

[JB]

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Anecdotal evidence is worthless.<br /><br />While your reasoning is logical, it is no substitute for facts.<br /><br />You still haven't answered my question. Why not get facts?<br /><br />Bill: does your truck have a towing package, oil cooler, HD radiator and alternator, what diff ratios? Does it have a frame mounted hitch or just a bumper?

 

[paulgp6022]

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"Just the facts" are for Joe Friday (J/K). Uniqueness in todays mass produced vehicles is no more. Whether it's a Chevy S-10, Nissan, Toyota, Ford Ranger, whatever. Auto manufacturers have to be competitive with one another to stay in business. So you can bet if one has a rating of ***xlbs, then the others will soon catch up to stay competitive. It's the nature of business.<br /><br />P.S. We agree to disagree. I'm going Fishing the suns out!

 

[dakotashooter2]

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Minnow Are you sure that is your trailer weight tow rating and not your GCWR Gross Combination Weight Rating for the weight of both the vehicle and tow? That would make more sense. I have two vehicles of similar size but with 2.9's and the GCWR is #8000. That leaves about #5500 for the tow weight. I personally get a little leary when pulling something near,at or above the weight of my vehicle with or without brakes. I agree that Billnicole should check with the manufacturer. It's probably OK for short distances on flat ground but under less than ideal conditions (bad ramps, towing uphill, ect.) I could be hard on the tranny and engine because he would probably be running very close to the max rating for the vehicle. I know manufacturers put a lot of miles on testing vehicles but I have even seen such test "convoys" but have yet to see one where they were pulling heavily loaded or any trailer.

 

[paulgp6022]

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Ford and Chevy are always boasting about their towing capacities. I have a Boating magazine subscription and there are always Chevy and Ford ads about who can tow more. It is sort of a pissing contest that stands the test of time.lol<br /><br />P.S Can you believe that the minute I got to the ramp, the #%$^# rain started again? I came home<br />

 

[TGattis]

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Tow Capacity on 96 Tacoma:3000# on the bumper<br />or the hitch.<br />Tow Capacity WITH weight distributing hitch (way to difficult to use on a boat designed for campers)is 5000# <br /><br />Trust me, just because it will pull it doesn't mean it will stop it.<br /><br />Don't forget the tounge weight capacity ratings either-300# on the bumper/hitch

 

[dhud64]

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I agree with TGattis statement, it may pull it but will it stop it? Then, think about rain, will it stop on a wet road?<br /> If you do it, always carry extra shorts, one day you'll soil them and need the spare set! Be carefull!

 

[RatFish]

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Billnicole,<br /><br />I used to have a 86 Toyota 4x4 regular cab P/U, 22R 4 banger with a 5 speed manual transmission. (The 22RE is fuel injected where the 22R is carbureted.) My truck was rated at 2000# with the bumper and 3500# with a class II hitch. It came with these ratings right off the showroom floor and it had absolutely no options. It didn't even have a radio or cigarette lighter! But then again it only cost me $8200 (new).<br /><br />I had a 12' aluminum semi-v with a 9.9 Evinrude and trailer. With gear and gas it probably came in around 800# - 1000# (max). I had no problems towing but it was a really light rig.<br /><br />All tow vehicles are not the same. Tow ratings can vary from year to year within the same vehicle. I just bought a 2002 Toyota PreRunner (2WD) P/U 3.4 V6 with an automatic. It came off the showroom floor with a tow rating of 3500#. I added all the necessary equipment to bring it up to a tow rating of 5000#. My owners manual recommends that you should NOT use a weight distributing hitch, USE a sway control device for trailers over 2000# and trailer brakes are REQUIRED for any trailer over 1000#. Just because my truck is rated at 5000#, I would not tow that much. I suggest you only tow 75% to 80% of your capacity (which you should find out from the Toyota dealer) as a margin of safety and never go over the GCWR. Remember you need to be able to stop quickly and safely as well as pull the whole mess up the ramp.<br /><br />Always take the side of caution. You can't go wrong. Good Luck.<br /><br />Mark