Buying a boat without a title...is that ok?

Drb007

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The engine on the Larson is a 75hp, which is what my daughter's boat is rated for. Her boat came with a 60hp but needs a lot of work cosmetically and mechanically. It might fire right up after I put a new pump in, plugs, wires, cap, etc, but it needs love. I am thinking it will take us a few months to sort hers out, where this one fires up and at least gets up to that starting point. Plus it is a lot cleaner for a repaint...
 

bonz_d

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Not knowing which 75hp that is, 3 cylinder or V4, if you can't get it cheap then I'd suggest watching CL from Milwaukee to Oshkosh to Madison for a 3 cylinder 70hp. I see them all the time listed very reasonably.

Good luck with your search.
 

Drb007

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Ok, now you've got my attention...why would I want the 3 rather than the 4?
Her 60hp is the Sportfour, and we really like the cosmetics of it. Neat shape. Haven't had it run yet.
The 75hp is a Starflight? I think? and also I believe is a V4.
I offered $200 for the whole deal.
Thoughts?
 

bonz_d

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If they'll accept that offer grab it.
If not then I suggest the 70hp 3cylinder because it will save weight, more fuel efficient, and lots of them around still.
 

roscoe

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According to their website (which I linked earlier):
All motorboats 16 feet and over in length, registered in Wisconsin after 1988 will have a Certificate of Title.

Moot point since it's only 15'.



Correct, ALMOST.

The word "registered", should be replaced with "originally registered or ownership transferred".

Having bought a dozen or so boats in the last 15 years, and registering all of them here in WI, I can tell you it is really an easy
process, as the DNR is the agency that made the rules, and realizes that many older boats never were titled.
I love the way our DNR uses common sense in these issues.

Example 1: bought a 1972 Starcraft that the seller bought from his father 1980.
The boat was never titled by his father, as WI did not issue titles back then.
The son used it for 25 years, always registered but never titled.
He sold it to me with just the signed registration card and a bill of sale.
In 2005, I walked in the DNR service station and handed them the papers.
They handed back new registration card and a title with my name on them. Took 15 minutes.

Example 2 : bought a 1995 model boat from a small dealer. Somehow either the original owner or the dealer, misplaced the title.
I knew I needed a title to transfer ownership to my name.
The dealer made a few calls, and was able to apply for a lost title, which he signed over to me.
Again, titling and registration in my name, took only a few minutes.

Examples 3 and 4 : I bought 2 boats from out of state.
One a 1981 model, and one a 199x model. Neither had titles, and to tell you the truth, one of them had been passed around like
a drunken who - I mean like a pint of Keslers at a Packer game. Hadn't been registered in years either.
In both cases, I walked in with what I had for paperwork, and walked out with titles.

I also registered and titled several boats that were under 16', with just a signed registration card in hand.
 

NYBo

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Well, that's refreshing, compared to the bureaucratic nightmares some members have related.
 

Drb007

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You can almost imagine the application process at the State...common sense, able to talk to people? DNR!
Prone to long breaks, enjoys sending people to the back of the line and charging them $5 to talk on the phone, at the counter, etc? DMV!
 

shrew

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The OP is in WI, so is Bonz_d. I used to live in WI, and had the best luck driving to the DNR office in Green Bay, or Madison for title and registration questions or issues.

Agreed. There were many, many other posts. My comment was generic and not aimed at you specifically.
 

shrew

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Couldn't agree more.

The information I provided is 1 hand experience from living in Wisconsin. I also recommend the on-line chat that the Wis. DNR provides. They are very concise and have not found a question that they cannot answer. BTW they also keep records of these chats in case you ever need to refer back to them from what I have witnessed.

Also Agreed. There were many, many other posts. My comment was generic and not aimed at you specifically.
 
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