Broken Lube Monitor fitting

[Jerryh3]

In the process of replacing the bellows I broke the through hull fitting for the drive lube monitor. I see no way of replacing it short of pulling the engine to get the inside of the fitting. I am just going to disable it for now. I was thinking of filling the fitting with epoxy or JB weld and removing the anti-dribble valve from the bell housing. Do I need to do anything else to make both sides water tight?

 

[Simoniz]

Re: Broken Lube Monitor fitting

You should be able to get at the other side of the fitting from inside the hull?

If you can, remove the quick disconnect fitting and then there is a circlip holding the thru hull fitting in place. The broken part costs under 10 dollars.

 

[Jerryh3]

Re: Broken Lube Monitor fitting

You should be able to get at the other side of the fitting from inside the hull?

If you can, remove the quick disconnect fitting and then there is a circlip holding the thru hull fitting in place. The broken part costs under 10 dollars.

I can't even see where the fitting is, let alone get to it. The lube monitor hose dissapears behind the engine somewhere. The way my boat is, the intergral swim platfrom is partially above the transom so the motor sits low and acces to the rear of it is extemely difficult. I'll look again when I get home, but I'm pretty sure replacing the fitting is out right now. It's looks the new fitting is brass so hopefully if it is replaced at some point it would not break again.

 

[Bt Doctur]

Re: Broken Lube Monitor fitting

page 4B-5 this link http://www.boatfix.com/merc/Servmanl/14/14b4.pdf

 

[Jerryh3]

Re: Broken Lube Monitor fitting

page 4B-5 this link http://www.boatfix.com/merc/Servmanl/14/14b4.pdf

The bell housing plug looks doable, but I'll still have the problem of the transom fitting. I might just try to clean out the broken nipple with some acetone or laquer thinner and squirt some 3M 5200 in it.

 

[bobhol]

Re: Broken Lube Monitor fitting

I did EXACTLY the same thing It was a ***** to remove ..I had to take my power steering cooler off to access the fitting.I took it out ,repaired it ,reinstalled it ..thought about it overnite...ordered a new one ...did the whole job over and felt better about it being a new piece. If it breaks a year down the road it is a HUGE job to fix it then....for what it is worth use a flashlight and a magnetic screwdriver to help remove the c clip holding the fitting in ...good luck!!....Bob

 

[dubs283]

Re: Broken Lube Monitor fitting

the through transom fitting is actually quite easy to remove, just don't lose the e-clip when you remove it

getting the e-clip back in place is the bummer part, even if access is easy to the inner transom plate

when you pick up a new fitting, get a couple extra e-clips because you will drop at least one and may not get it back easily

i personally would not trust blocking off the lube monitor port at the bell housing - although by removing the nipple that connects to the drive, you are trusting the ball valve in the drive to not leak gear lube

the ball valve isn't supposed to leak when seated (like when the drive is off the boat), but it is a valve and can fail!!

 

[cr2k]

Re: Broken Lube Monitor fitting

Another one of the "advantages" of the Gen II.

 

[Jerryh3]

Re: Broken Lube Monitor fitting

Update: There is no possible way I can get to the fitting without taking the power steering rack off and then I would still need five foot arms with three elbows. I'm going to seal off the nipple with some type of caulk because even if it does leak water is is only going to go up the lube monitor hose. For the bell housing side, I removed the thread to barb fitting and ordered the block off plug from mercruiser (1/8-17) to seal up the drive. Not the best situation but an easy two dollar fix. I ordered the through hull fitting too just in case I'm feeling adventurous over the winter and decide to fix it correctly.

 

[Jerryh3]

Re: Broken Lube Monitor fitting

Another one of the "advantages" of the Gen II.

Yeh, real advantage. Whoever decided to make that thing out of plastic needs beat with a rubber hose.

 

[Jerryh3]

Re: Broken Lube Monitor fitting

the through transom fitting is actually quite easy to remove, just don't lose the e-clip when you remove it

getting the e-clip back in place is the bummer part, even if access is easy to the inner transom plate

when you pick up a new fitting, get a couple extra e-clips because you will drop at least one and may not get it back easily

i personally would not trust blocking off the lube monitor port at the bell housing - although by removing the nipple that connects to the drive, you are trusting the ball valve in the drive to not leak gear lube

the ball valve isn't supposed to leak when seated (like when the drive is off the boat), but it is a valve and can fail!!

Even if the valve did leak, wouldn't the drive gasket prevent the oil from leaking out or water from getting in?

 

[Jerryh3]

*Update* Broken Lube Monitor fitting

*Update* Broken Lube Monitor fitting

Well, I bucked up and fixed it the right way. Pulled the steering rack and replaced the fitting properly. I got rid of the plastic one and installed the old style brass one. I would of needed to remove the steering rack anyway to get to the shift cable so it all worked out. Now everything is connected at the transom and I just need to attached everything to the bell housing. Hopefully another couple hours and I'll have it all back together. Definitely a learning experience.

 

[Fun Times]

Re: *Caution

Re: *Caution

Well, I bucked up and fixed it the right way. Pulled the steering rack and replaced the fitting properly. I got rid of the plastic one and installed the old style brass one. I would of needed to remove the steering rack anyway to get to the shift cable so it all worked out. Now everything is connected at the transom and I just need to attached everything to the bell housing. Hopefully another couple hours and I'll have it all back together. Definitely a learning experience.

Caution, You better try looking for a water leak first before you button everything up, Because it is my understanding the old style brass fitting and the new style plastic fitting are not interchangeable, I believe the hole thru the transom assemblys are different between the two styles.

You might want to spray the outside area with water from the garden hose first just to confirm while someone is on the inside checking for leaks.

Good luck.

 

[Jerryh3]

Re: *Caution

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Caution, You better try looking for a water leak first before you button everything up, Because it is my understanding the old style brass fitting and the new style plastic fitting are not interchangeable, I believe the hole thru the transom assemblys are different between the two styles.

You might want to spray the outside area with water from the garden hose first just to confirm while someone is on the inside checking for leaks.

Good luck.

Actually, I was wondering about that. mercurypartspexpress.com had the brass fitting in an inset on the parts diagram so I figured it was a direct replacement. I though to myself that there's no way they would have changed the transom assemblies just for this difference, but now you have me wondering.

 

[Fun Times]

Re: Found the info for you.

Re: Found the info for you.

Actually, I was wondering about that. mercurypartspexpress.com had the brass fitting in an inset on the parts diagram so I figured it was a direct replacement. I though to myself that there's no way they would have changed the transom assemblies just for this difference, but now you have me wondering.

http://www.boatfix.com/merc/Bullet/98/98_12.pdf

 

[Jerryh3]

Re: Found the info for you.

Re: Found the info for you.

http://www.boatfix.com/merc/Bullet/98/98_12.pdf

Thanks for the info. Another $30 and two hours of my life wasted. I'm beginning not to like boats. Bad part is that it probably wouldn't leak the way it is, buy why take the chance since the bell housing is off.

 

[Jerryh3]

Re: *Caution

Re: *Caution

Caution, You better try looking for a water leak first before you button everything up, Because it is my understanding the old style brass fitting and the new style plastic fitting are not interchangeable, I believe the hole thru the transom assemblys are different between the two styles.

You might want to spray the outside area with water from the garden hose first just to confirm while someone is on the inside checking for leaks.

Good luck.

Alright, new parts in hand. Take two.

 

[Fun Times]

Re: *Caution

Re: *Caution

Alright, new parts in hand. Take two.

Your a pro now.

Seriously don't let it get you down, It's just a learning experience is all, We all go through it on just about everything we do.

You've already saved money doing it yourself, So it's not all that bad.

I hope you'll have better luck with it this time around.

 

[Jerryh3]

Re: *Caution

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Your a pro now.

Seriously don't let it get you down, It's just a learning experience is all, We all go through it on just about everything we do.

You've already saved money doing it yourself, So it's not all that bad.

I hope you'll have better luck with it this time around.

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right? Seriously, not a huge deal. But, I think Merc should be a little more clear on their parts site. If they changed the housing, there should have been an effectivity number for this fitting.