Boating and Children?

tmcalavy

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Re: Boating and Children?

Babies can't swim. Neither can they plug in a hair drier, put their formula in a microwave or drive themselves to their checkup, yet they routinely benifet from an adult that knows how to mitigate the risks for the benifet derived.

Many thousands of East Asians are born on small craft that we would think of a days outing capabilities, grow up, marry and die on nothing much bigger. Their parrents accept the responsibility of the circumstances and rise to the occassion.

I have had real "sea dogs", young children and worse yet, adults with no waterborn experience aboard my vessels. With all of the exposed rotating machinery involved with steam; the temperatures, the "pinch points", the chance of falling overboard and drowning, there has been not one close incounter with the stupid zone.

Young children can and will grow up safe aboard. Others will die needlessly as their parents will or can not protect them from landborn car accidents, preditory actions of what will graciously called human beings, or other forseeable, yet ignored actions.

Do not be dismayed by the weak willed. If you are willing to exert authority over you crumb cruncher, then the child will be more than safe.

I live in a land that has scorpions, pit vipers and large feline menaces. Our children are taught from the time that they understand the spoken word to protect themselves from the aformentiond risks. Water is no diffrent.

No swimmee, no boatee. No exceptions = no fatalities, most of the time...except maybe north of the Red. Doesn't matter what age they learn to use their gills, 2, 6, 10 or whatever, once that's done they can pile in the boat every time.
 

FusionFrank

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No swimmee, no boatee. No exceptions = no fatalities, most of the time...except maybe north of the Red. Doesn't matter what age they learn to use their gills, 2, 6, 10 or whatever, once that's done they can pile in the boat every time.

I am not one to start controversy, but I must say I don't agree with you. You are saying, you will not allow a child on the the boat untill they are 100% totaly self sufficent, do you carry this through with the rest of their endeavors? Are they not allowed to attend school till they are capable of defending their selves against sexual predators? Can't eat halloween candy till it's x-rayed? Don't let them drive with others till back ground checks are run on the drivers? ETC -I think you get what I am saying. We as parents and grand parents ( I am a Grand Pop and love my grand son way more than my boat) have to trust ourselves and our judgement. I would never put my little buddy in harms way, but at the same time don't feel I need to shelter him from every possible pitfall that could come his way. I use common sense and don't subject him to needless perils, and at 8 months now he loves the boat and smiles as soon as he sees it - I will not cheat him out of this time even if it requires a little extra effort on my part.​
 

tmcalavy

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I'm saying that everyone who goes in my boat knows how to swim, no exceptions. Doesn't matter what age they are, have to know how to swim. That's just my rule and my opinion. You can read anything into it beyond that if you want, it's a free country...huzzah!
 

j_martin

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Re: Boating and Children?

Non-swimmers on my boat have to wear a life vest full time.

On the swim bit. I have had a bit of trouble with authority in my family. The last 2 overprotected boys still couldn't swim at 11 and 13. I got a boat, and told them that in 2 months I would throw them overboard into 40 feet of water and see if they can swim. I got their attention, and worked on getting them to quit trying to keep half their body out of the water, the water's your friend, see you actually float, breath when your nose is out of the water, no a little water in your nose ain't gonna drown you routine for 2 months. The main thing I taught them was survival floatation, or drownproofing. In 2 months I threw them in.

They're a pair of fish, now, and go overboard on their own any time they feel like it, which is often.

Got another boat now, and when I'm running with nothing but the screw and about 2 feet of boat in the water, we all wear life jackets.

John
 

getinmerry

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Re: Boating and Children?

I am a firm believer that a child any age should experience boating. As long as three things are addressed:

1. A life jacket that fits properly and holds up the head of children.
2. Weather that is condusive to a nice day on the water.
3. (most important) A captain that is RESPONSIBLE! Alcohol should be left on shore, weather and wind conditions should be constantly monitored, and NO HOT RODDING!

Whenever I'm out boating with kids on board, I ALWAYS keep the shoreline in sight and try to stay within hailing distance of other boats.

Not being able to swim should never be used as a punishment to exclude kids from a wonderful hobby. Boating should be used to introduce kids to water and entice them to learn to swim. My daughter became very motivated to improve her swimming skills because of the boat. She had taken lessons for years and never did very well until the motivation came last summer when I bought a new family-friendly boat. Now she swims like a fish! She actually asked to take more lessons over the winter so she'll feel more comfortable when she learns to water-ski next year.

Chuck
 

j_martin

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Right on, we played while they were learning to swim. Just the "fact" that Pa was going to throw them in after 2 months helped motivate them to stick to the task of learning how to swim. After 2 months I didn't throw them in, they jumped in, got back in the boat, then threw me in. We had a blast.

John
 

mattttt25

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Re: Boating and Children?

My 4yr old and 18 month old have been on the water since they were both 6 months. The 4 yr old drives the boat better than most adults I know. We've spent countless weekends TOGETHER on the boat.

With that said, I have a good size Grady-White with a huge cockpit and cabin. Just bringing that up because I've seen infants out in 13' jon boats. I probably wouldn't go there.
 
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