Blower vent line I/O

[smokeonthewater]

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It is REALLY dificult to be nice sometimes isn't it? At least he did say he would look for the right hose. Some people just don't have the mechanical aptitude to really understand how this stuff works. I rebuilt my first carb on a chainsaw at age 6 or 7 on a chainsaw. I wasn't strong enough yet to even pull the cord. My grandpa had both given up after weeks of trying to get it running and given it to me as junk. I had it running (with help to pull the cord) in a few hours. It just came natural to me to follow the path that the fuel took from the tank and figure out why it didn't reach the cylinder. That was 30 years ago and my entire life has centered around all things that burn fuel.
Untill very recent years I was doing this stuff on a budget where 2 or 3 dollars made a huge difference and I still stretch my money further than most think possible so I really do understand pinching pennies. I also have learned (sometimes painfully) that there are areas where the danger is so high that you just can't cut corners.... That is the ONLY reason I have never owned an airplane. EVERYTHING on a plane is in that catagory because a failure of any part of the machine can very possibly be quickly fatal. All vehicles have some very important systems. On a car I would say that the steering and brake systems would be the worst places to cut corners and on a boat it would be fire prevention and structural integrity among others of course.......

At least the op gets it

 

[Thajeffski]

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so then every one that has a dryer with this kind of tube should be catching fire because of the heat generated.

Generally a dryer in the basement isn't the same as being inside an engine compartment.......wouldn't you agree ?

 

[PiratePast40]

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The fire danger in a household dryer application isn't from just the aluminum duct. It's from spiral wound flexible duct - regardless of the material. Too many fires from the flex duct not properly installed. You can actually create a pretty good combustion chamber with a loop in a duct, combustable material, and an ignition source. Because of the risk and past history, many municipalities now require ridgid duct for household clothes dryer exhaust.

That's what was behind my comment about the thin aluminum foil duct. It's available and the chance of miss-application is pretty high.

I believe it's a case of the consumer seeing a product that they think will do the job for them but not being aware of the hazards. It doesn't mean that you'll immediately burst into flames and be subject to eternal damnation if you use ABC instead of XYZ. It's just that there are intrinsically safer products and methods available.

 

[imraan47]

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Ya you are right but also everyone entiled to their opinion.

 

[imraan47]

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(ok guys, this is my last post in this thread. If Inraan47 is too stupid to see simple facts, we can't help him, only god can do that now)

Try to watch your language....i don't know what you are so pissed Chris as if this is your boat or life. Give your advice and that's appreciated on its own or just go to the next post as there are many that need help.
Don't be calling people stupid or anything if you dont know jack about them.

 

[JoLin]

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Try to watch your language....i don't know what you are so pissed Chris as if this is your boat or life. Give your advice and that's appreciated on its own or just go to the next post as there are many that need help.
Don't be calling people stupid or anything if you dont know jack about them.

People who stubbornly persist in defending incorrect or dangerous practices, as simply a matter of personal preference, tend to **** off the boaters here who are dedicated to educating the others on safe boating practices. Sometimes there's more than one right way of doing something- most times there's only one.

Your way is wrong. It's dangerous. It isn't a matter of opinion, or personal preference, and it isn't a matter of your way being simply "another way of doing it"- it's wrong. How many people need to tell you it's wrong and dangerous, and demonstrate why it's wrong and dangerous, before you concede that you effed up? There's no shame in that, guy, everybody effs up. It's the attitude that ticks people off.

I'm not defending the 'stupid' comment. I don't care for it... but I understand the frustration.

My .02

 

[smokeonthewater]

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JoLin
I agree whole heartedly with every word.... he was a bit harsh but I can understand why.... It is incredibly frustrating to try so hard to help someone just to have them write your advice off as an opinion.

 

[Shife]

Re: Blower vent line I/O

If you can't afford proper bilge vent hose, you can't afford boating. The stuff is cheap. The rules regarding proper materials, boating laws/regulations, and just plain common sense are listed online in a bazillion places and are free to look at.

It is amazing how much time and energy people will put into doing something wrong when doing it right is so frigging easy.

 

[JimS123]

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Try to watch your language....i don't know what you are so pissed Chris as if this is your boat or life. Give your advice and that's appreciated on its own or just go to the next post as there are many that need help.
Don't be calling people stupid or anything if you dont know jack about them.

Well as a matter of fact it IS his boat and life. Because when someone ignorantly causes an accident, that person is usually the first one to call out for help. That puts everyone's life in danger.

If 100 people tell you that you are being dangerous, and you chose not to comply, then do you have the right to ask passerbys for assistance?

PS - just as an aside, I've replaced my dryer vent several times. I wouldn't put that metal crap in my house either. They sell plastic vent hose (looks similar to boat hose) and it works much much better and lasts way way longer.

 

[carcraze]

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Hey all

Correct me if I am wrong but normal vinyl 3" dryer line (not aluminum) is fine for a blower line? I repaced a few vinyl lines that had cracked in my 88 this past weekend and I am in Canada it was not very hard to find really they had it at the hardware store.

 

[JimS123]

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Hey all

Correct me if I am wrong but normal vinyl 3" dryer line (not aluminum) is fine for a blower line? I repaced a few vinyl lines that had cracked in my 88 this past weekend and I am in Canada it was not very hard to find really they had it at the hardware store.

Vinyl dryer line has a wire running inside, thus I wouldn't think that would be suitable either.

I wasn't suggesting using it in a boat - I was just commenting that the metal stuff isn't good for anything.

 

[carcraze]

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Yep I know you were not suggesting it but even the line that I removed which appeared to be original has a steel anti collapse coil in it. I also seem to remember my previous boat having the same but that is not to say someone prior had not changed it. Well if someone knows if there is a reg let us know I will find out after my survey.

 

[Shife]

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Hey all

Correct me if I am wrong but normal vinyl 3" dryer line (not aluminum) is fine for a blower line? I repaced a few vinyl lines that had cracked in my 88 this past weekend and I am in Canada it was not very hard to find really they had it at the hardware store.

The 10ft pack of Shields 3in white bilge vent hose I have sitting in my garage is made of anodized aluminum wire and UV/ozone resistant vinyl.

I don't know what the stuff at Home Depot is made of and it's the "I don't know" part that doesn't mesh well with boating.

 

[PiratePast40]

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It looks like some people are getting stuck in analysis paralysis and may be trying to overthink this. I know it's easy to do when you get conflicting or incomplete information and don't know where to turn.

The electrical conduction issue with exposed metal duct is obvious. The wire inside plastic or cloth duct (the helic), is insulated by the duct fabric itself so it's a non issue.

Here's a link to the citation from the CFR's: http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=68acf5981f04054a49a68feb4b59551f&rgn=div6&view=text&node=33:2.0.1.8.45.11&idno=33

I know there's a lot of distrust of government standards but at the very least it gives us a uniform starndard for reference.