bayliner project boat worth it?

[mitch9.5]

hey guys,
i am able to get a good deal on a 70's bayliner caprice cuddy, it has a good trailer, the out drive is in good shape but it needs a motor and manifolds, the interior vinyl is in good shape, needs new carpet. im getting the boat for 1000$, would this be worth getting? or should i just get a 4-5000$ boat i don't mind doing the work but i don't want to put 3000$ into it and just break even.
does anyone know what it costs to put a 4.3 into once of these boats? im just looking for a junk yard 4.3 and run that for a summer.
there used to be a 350 in the boat so im sure i am going to have to move some mounts around, but should the throttle linkages be the same?
im trying to figure out what im getting into for cost, motor, manifolds + piping, the flywheel converter for the back of the motor. but also im sure im missing some important things to consider.
anyone with some advice would be great.
thanks.

 

[jbcurt00]

Look around at some other projects posted here.

W no engine currently, you cant simply drop a junk yard engine in it and go. Even after making new motor mounts

A 1K Bayliner from the 70s is going to need a lot of work, unless its the 1 in a 100000 that was well maintained and kept covered for the entire past 40 odd years.

Add your 3K in estimated repair costs (IMO, thats low when you add buying a matinized engine) and you wont break even.

Its still a 70s boat.

There is lots of info in here, look around now that you're here.

Stsrt here
http://forums.iboats.com/forum/gene...eeding-help-buying-a-boat-a-buyer-s-checklist

 

[ondarvr]

The boat is worth nothing, and even at that price (zero $) it's only worth rebuilding if you're in love with this boat and can't live without it.

 

[Woodonglass]

Look for another boat. This one is not worth the effort.

 

[mitch9.5]

this is why i cant buy things lol, some one shoots me a "deal" and i think well **** i have to start somewhere. i have a couple buddies that are wicked at buying ****, somehow they always get a deal. i guess i figured this might be one of those good buys, im pretty mechanically inclined, ( pull motors, head gaskets, a bit of fab work and carburetors ) so the work doesn't scare me but as a tradesmen i know my time is worth something. so if i put 3,000$ into the boat it wouldn't be worth 6?
also i forgot to mention that the guy im buying it from is a buddie of mine and he said he could get me most of the parts at cost. i dont know if that helps me much,.

 

[ondarvr]

If you put $3,000 into it, plus hundreds of hours of work, you may be able to get $2,000 for it from someone that doesn't know better.

$3,000 would be very low, it would probably be much more.

 

[mitch9.5]

well thats disappointing, thanks for the heads up guys. i will see if he will give it to me lol!

 

[mitch9.5]

one other quick question, what is the differance between a marine 4.3 and autoimotive 4.3

 

[Patfromny]

I can tell you from my experience that I have at least 3000 in mine probably closer to 4000 and it is worth about 2500. It was my dad's and it has some sentimental value but I dont think flipping 70s boats is a profitable endeavor. Mine was built to be safe and to be used by my neices and nephew so the upside down factor didn't apply. Do your research and then make a move. If you want to use the boat for several years then sell, figure what that is worth to you and subtract that from the total. For me, my boat will always be in the family so it will pay for itself in a few years of use.

BTW my boat is an aluminium 16 ft. Outboard. Alot cheaper than a fiberglass io if you need to do structural work. (You will).

 

[H20Rat]

so if i put 3,000$ into the boat it wouldn't be worth 6?

Ask yourself what you would pay for a 40 year old boat with zero maintenance history and a previous owner who only owned the boat for a very short time. Even if you fix it up to what would be considered good condition for that boat, you are talking $1000 to $2000, I'd doubt any one would jump on it for much more.

Also, considering the age and brand, the lack of engine is the least of your problems.

 

[Watermann]

Keep looking, find a better boat with a working motor and take it for a spin before popping on it. That Bayliner will be rotten to the core and require 100's of hours of difficult labor and cost 1000's.

 

[mitch9.5]

God love you guys.
I appreciate the help and information.
Saved me lots of time and money

 

[Ned L]

And 70's Bayliner, ........ Think the 'Ford Pinto' of boats.

 

[skipper123]

If you got it with a 2000 dollar bill tied to it and had to restore it I would run and run fast. No joke every inch of wood needs replaced.

 

[mitch9.5]

hey guys sorry i didnt get back to you fine gents.
i did not get the boat, thank you for all the warnings, i decided that it was not in my best interest,
thanks again guys,

 

[mxcobra]

one other quick question, what is the diffarance between a marine 4.3 and automotive 4.3

The blocks are just about the same, everything else must be mariane, for expolision hazerd. all fuel system all elerctical exahst manifolds. starter any thing that could potentally throw a spark or fuel vaper must be marine, bolt all those items to an automative block and youre good...

 

[Guest]

Restoring a Bayliner...you might as well flush your money down the toilet, its the same effect

 

[GA_Boater]

Restoring a Bayliner...you might as well flush your money down the toilet, its the same effect

Can't the same can be said for almost any boat restoration?

 

[Watermann]

Beauty and worth is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[CrazyFinn]

Can't the same can be said for almost any boat restoration?

Yes - if you measure the worth only by the resale value.

Fortunately, in my case, I have no plans to sell it any time soon. I suppose, if a Bayliner had some sort of exceptional sentimental value to the owner, and they were really looking for a project, it might be worth rebuilding. Without that "value" that you can't put a dollar figure on, there are better choices to restore.