Bayliner Capris: Opinions please???

hodgejr

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Being a novice boater, I'd like an experienced opinion on Bayliners. More specific, the Capri line. I hear one side sayin they're a good value for the money, and others labeling them as pieces of junk!<br /><br />For the latter, could you please explain why? <br /><br />Appreciate your opinions....
 

JB

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I would rather not badmouth such a popular product, Hodge, but I have seen/heard too many cases of stringer rot, floor rot, thin, porous fiberglass letting water at untreated wood. I don't recall actually seeing transom rot, but just the thought of it scares the ****ens out of me. It is a crying shame, because they are such pretty boats until you look real close at the fit, finish and materials. <br /><br />Like used cars, the cheaper used boats are the less likely you are to get your money worth.<br /><br />Good luck.<br /><br />Red sky at night. . . <br />JB
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anne

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I have a 1999 Bayliner Capri 1800 with a Force 120 O/B, so I guess I have a boat a lot of folks here would really consider an albatross... ;) <br /><br />I got it in March of 1999, so this is my third season with it. We've been really lucky with it, and I like the little boat. It's a pretty little boat and we've had few problems with it. I like how it rides, it pulls skiers and wakeboarders fine.<br /><br />Here are the problems I've encountered with it:<br />* the stereo in it to start with was really junk. I replaced that myself.<br />* the starter was replaced under warranty when a part of it came off -- when the mechanic showed me what had happened, it was something that even I could have fixed had I known what to do (I am NOT mechanically inclined)<br />* the bendix on the starter began sticking earlier this year -- good advice from this BB allowed us to fix that problem simply by lubricating the shaft/bendix (THANKS FOLKS! :) )<br /><br />I like the way it is laid out with the bench seat across the stern -- my previous boats were I/O's with the stern broken up by the motor cover. This is my first O/B, and I really like it.<br /><br />When I picked up the boat from the dealership, the mechanic who gave me break-in instructions for the engine told me to be sure to change the impeller every 2 years. I took it in at the beginning of this year for service. I am going to get manuals and try to learn to do basic servicing on my own to save money and just because I'd like to know (plus with all the negative comments on Force on these boards, well, it's kinda scared me into thinking I really need to know!!! ;) )<br /><br />Overall, though, I've been happy with the boat. I have a good place to keep it -- it's in a boat lift with a cover on it and I keep a bucket of dehumidifying stuff under the cover to cut down on moisture. I guess from what everyone says about the potential for rot / water damage, that would be something to consider -- if you have a place to store it where it can be kept out of the elements, that would cut back on such worries. (Plus, I just love boats -- any boat, and it makes me happy just to take it out and clean it up -- my fiance thinks I'm nuts -- but it contributes to the boat still looking almost new even with a few years on it!!!<br /> :) <br /><br />It is what it is... A small, inexpensive entry level boat. It suits my purposes -- freshwater inland boating. It wouldn't work for everyone. I guess a lot depends on what you want out of the boat. If you're going to take good care of it and are boating on waters for which it's appropriate, I don't think it's a bad choice. If you buy one new, you will be luckier than me in that you won't have the now-discontinued Force engine that everyone here thinks so highly of... :eek: <br /><br />Now my next boat, I'm thinking of getting something that I could still use pretty well in my area, but could trailer and use offshore at times... Maybe a Boston Whaler 210 Outrage... <br /> :cool: <br /><br />Hmmm... Wanna buy a well cared-for used Bayliner Capri???<br />(just kiddin' -- I really love my little boat!)<br /><br />-anne :)
 

hodgejr

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Thanx for the input, I really wanted the opinion from a Bayliner owner as well! I have a Capri 160, and your advice is precisely what I needed (rather than hearing "it's junk", like i've heard over and over again). This weekend i'll go tubing, i'm sure my 50hp mercury will be up to the task. <br /><br />And, believe it or not, i took it out to open sea!!! It rocked, like i expected, but it was worth it, i'll do it again for sure.<br /><br />Goin to Sanibel in 2 weeks...wish me luck!
 

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I bought a 2001 Bayliner Capri Classic 1952 earlier this year - it's basically a 19' cuddy cabin with a 140hp mercruiser stern drive. I bought it knowing the reputation Bayliner has among serious boaters - I have a friend that owns a Supra that can't utter the word Bayliner without wrinkling his nose. I bought it for design and price, it's a great little boat for going out and skiing and can also take me, the wife and dog camping for a night - Great Fun! I keep it garaged and am meticulous about maintenance so hopefully it will last.<br /><br />It is interesting to note that the same parent company that owns Bayliner also owns Sea Ray, Boston Whaler and other boat makes.<br /><br />As long as you're on the water having fun, that's all that matters!
 

my new fishmaster

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I would pass on a bayliner and go with an aluminum boat like my Starcraft. The newer ones are great boats I had seen a repo in SLC a brand new boat never used it looked to be around 25 ft alum and brand new with a cuddy. Mine is a 96 fishmaster 170 I found on boat trader.com in AZ :p
 

jmoir

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I have had three Bayliner Capri's starting with a 1988 1500 50HP force, then a 1991 1800 90HP Force(junk), and finally a 1997 1700 (120 HP Force/Merc). All of these boats were great looking and compliments were plenty, but as I noticed in a prevoius post, don't look too close. They lack in fit and finish. You get exactly what you pay for. My latest boat the 97 1700 performs well, no problem with pulling anything even bare footers but I have had some problems with stress cracks in the deck around the windsheild. Even though the boat was still under the structial hull warranty Bayliner refuses to help in any way in repairing the cracks.They even told me that the original 12 month warranty would not have covered this. A little disapointing to say the least.
 

kev_79

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I have a 90 model bayliner capri. The boat is in great shape, except one seat is cracking because we always step on it when getting in and out of the boat. Other than that, it's great. No matter what you are dealing with, always remember, you get what you pay for. I love the design of the bayliner, and I wouldn't be scared to chose one for a first boat. For twice the price you can go and get a cobolt, and it will last twice as long. If it has a force on it, get it checked thoughly. They have a bad rap for good reason, but if you get a good one and take care of it, you will be fine. Good luck, and let us know what you come up with :cool:
 

hodgejr

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wow, this is great, a lot of know-how for sure! Since I haven't even logged 20 hrs on my baby (only 16 ft!) i haven't really seen the wear and tear yet. I'm havin sooo much fun, despite one speed ticket (so far!). <br /><br />For your time and dedication, here goes some pics...<br />Bayliner Capri 160<br /><br />In case you're wonderin, that Kia seen at the ramp is long gone, but the replacement vehicule I chose is just as bad. But that's <br />another story...
 

anne

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Nice pictures, hodgejr -- looks like y'all had a great day out on the water. :) <br />I'm sure there'll be many more great days to come; hope y'all have loads of fun tubing this weekend! :cool: <br /><br />It would be neat living in South FL... When you say "out on open sea" where did you go? How far out? What were the sea conditions? <br />For now, I better stick to inland waters in AL... ;) <br /><br />I hope you work out your tow vehicle problems -- like you say, they will eventually work out! And you learn from things like that (I'm learning a bunch from having gotten a new dock installed this year -- still working through problems with its anchorage -- wish me luck!!!).<br />A thought -- you say older P/U type vehicles are in short supply and high $$$ in S FL -- maybe you could locate 3 or 4 to look at in Georgia or Alabama and you all could road trip for a vehicle buying / vacation long weekend.<br /><br />Good luck on that front, and Happy Boating!<br /><br />-anne :)
 

hodgejr

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Well, here's an update:<br /><br />It looks I'll be turning in the Mazda back to the dealer, for breach of contract since they couldn't fulfill my finance needs. Which means...I get my Kia back. Then I'll start lookin at an old Blazer, bronco or somethin like that. It'll also mean that i'll have to u-haul my boat to sanibel island next week, but if that's what it takes...<br /><br />There's not really a demand problem in s. florida as far as trucks, it's just that ALL vehicules down here are very expensive in general compared to the rest of the country. But i'll find somethin without nededin the road trip, for sure. But thanx for the suggestion.<br /><br />S. Florida's a lotta fun, but it's gettin old, that's why i need a vehicule that can handle long-distance travel, so i can get out more.<br /><br />Re the "open sea", it was only bout 1/2 off Pompano Beach. It rocked a bit, but nothin more. I won't make it into a habit, though, i know the sea can bite back!!! :eek:
 

kev_79

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Great looking wi...boat, hodge jr. HEHE :D Got a solid merc on it, I'm sure it will last you till you get power or speed hungry. Remember, keep the throttle plates parallel to the water!!!!!!
 

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I have the 89 model 1650. I bought it from my Father just before he passed away. He bought it from my brother,who purchased it new.<br />My bro took maticulous care of it. My father let it go to heck in a hat basket. The seats are in horrible shape,but new ones are on order....FINALLY got the greenage. I too, like the design and layout of the entire Bayliner line. Every time I am at the ramp,I still get the "Hey, pretty boat!" comments,and that's with cracked seats in a 12 year-old hull...Force motor at that!<br />The boat took some doing to get it seaworthy after sitting for close to 3 years. The fuel system was trashed, and the lower unit had a leaking driveshaft seal. It overheated on my first trip out with it on a new impeller..Found mud dawbber's nest in the intake.<br />I've had her off the coast of Sanibel Island 2.5 miles under calm seas. It was scarey,and I only did it because I have an intricate knowlege of sea conditions in this area.<br />The hull is sound, but I had to repair some deck rot when I got the boat.<br /><br />I'm used to larger boats as a rule, but I am extremely happy with the Bliner. It's light,so I can tow it with my 4cylinder Toyota pickup (overdrive off, of course).<br />And it get's great fuel economy!<br />People who bad-mouth Force motors are usually used to bells and whistles. They are a simple engine to maintain,even tho they require more maintainence. I even like the engine,but wish I had about 10 more HP.<br />The handling is great,turns on a wet dime.<br />As i have had the misfortune to have a section of the deck out, I have seen with my own eyes, the contraversial "Layup work".<br />Addmittedly, the finish glass (bilge-side) is hairy,and glass-shy.But it is thick and solid to the water side ,with lots of heavy stringers for wave-bashing.<br />The transom is solid as new,allong with the rest of the hull.<br />The stereo does bite, but well-protected . <br />It's fine for what i use it for, and am reluctant to tie hard-earned bucks up in a sound system that may over-draw the limitted chraging current for the battery.<br />This is not my favorite boat,and it does have it's draw-backs as to where I can go with it. Lee County's waterways are VERY shallow. I like the ease and utility my little 12Footer provides me. But for those trips with family or friends, or trips to the beach or islands, this Bliner is hard to beat.<br /> http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/seanzaw/myhomepageindex.html
 

hodgejr

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hey ann, check this out! I was able to trade in my Mazda for a Ranger!!! XLT, no less, with complete towing package. It came out cheaper too, even with power locks, windows and all. <br /><br />Sanibel, here i come... i'll post the pix when i get back, that is, if i ever get back; might ditch ft. lauderdale and get me a house there! ;)
 

anne

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Congratulations on the new Ranger!!! I had a 1988 XLT for many years -- it was a great little truck. Sounds like you have a way cool tow vehicle now!<br />Y'all have a GREAT time in Sanibel!!!<br />-anne :)
 

anne

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Congratulations on the new Ranger!!! I had a 1988 XLT for many years -- it was a great little truck. Sounds like you have a way cool tow vehicle now!<br />Y'all have a GREAT time in Sanibel!!!<br />-anne :)
 
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