Bad News

SpinnerBait_Nut

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Report: Al-Qaida militants behead American hostage in Saudi Arabia -<br />Al-Qaida militants beheaded American engineer Paul Johnson they had held hostage since last week, an Arab television network reported Friday.<br /><br />Just makes me sick to hear this.<br />Prayers and well wishes go out to his family from mine.
 

samagee

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Yep, and we should start answering with the beheading of who they wanted. <br /><br />I am hoping that this will be found to be not true, but I really don't expect it.
 

Bassy

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It makes me so sick too. My heart just aches for the family that hears about their loved one going like this. Just heartbreaking. My prayers go out to the family and friends of my American brother.<br />Bassy
 

kenimpzoom

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These "militants" are the biggest cowards ever.<br /><br />I hope they rot in ____!!!!<br /><br />Ken
 

LadyFish

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More....<br /><br />No independent confirmation was available.<br /><br />Thousands of Saudi police had searched Friday for Johnson, three days after the terrorists who captured him gave the government 72 hours to free Al Qaeda prisoners in exchange for his freedom.<br /><br />Johnson's wife appealed for his safe return on Arab television Friday.<br /><br />"Please! I want him to come back to see me. He didn't do anything wrong," Thanom Johnson, said in interview on Saudi-owned satellite TV channel Al-Arabiya (search). "I've never seen him having any problems with the people here. Never."<br /><br />In Johnson's hometown of Eagleswood Township, N.J., relatives held a vigil Thursday night.<br /><br />Johnson's kidnappers released a videotape of him on Tuesday night saying they would kill him unless the Saudi government released all militants in its prisons within 72 hours. The Saudis have rejected the demand.<br /><br />Police went through several Riyadh neighborhoods from Thursday night through Friday morning, but authorities gave no indication they were any closer to Johnson, a Lockheed Martin (search) employee who was kidnapped Saturday by a group calling itself Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. The organization is believed to be headed by Abdulaziz Issa Abdul-Mohsin al-Moqrin (search), the top Al Qaeda figure in Saudi Arabia.<br /><br />People living in the districts, which lie in western and southern Riyadh, suggested that the kidnappers enjoy popular support, partly because of U.S. policy in Iraq and its perceived backing for Israel.<br /><br />"How can we inform on our brothers when we see all these pictures coming from Abu Ghraib and Rafah," Muklas Nawaf, a resident of Dhahar al-Budaih, said as he ate meat grilled on a spit at a restaurant called Jihad, Arabic for holy war. He was referring to the pictures of Iraqis abused by U.S. soldiers at the Abu Ghraib prison (search) in Baghdad and Israeli military incursions and killings in the Gaza refugee camp of Rafah.<br /><br />"This is not a little skirmish. It is a war," Nawaf said.<br /><br />A preacher of Riyadh's Imam Sultana Mosque implored the kidnappers to release Johnson in a column published in Al-Riyadh newspaper on Friday.<br /><br />"O, youth of the nation who have trodden the wrong path, come back to the fold of the community of Islam. Avoid this sedition and be obedient to the ruler of the Muslims," Sheik Mohammed bin Saad al-Saeed wrote.<br /><br />A senior Saudi official in the United States said Thursday night that U.S. and Saudi officials have had few promising leads in their search for Johnson.<br /><br />The Saudi official, who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the probe, said there had been no communications from the kidnappers except for the video and statement on the Web site.<br /><br />The FBI has sent a team of about 20 specialists in hostage rescue, hostage negotiations, profiling and other specialties who were working directly with Saudi officials, the official said.<br /><br />More than 15,000 Saudi officers have been deployed in the search of Riyadh, going door-to-door in some neighborhoods. More than 1,200 Saudi homes had been searched as of Thursday night.<br /><br />"We are even using the fire department, for instance, because they have knowledge of their neighborhoods, and districts," the official said.<br /><br />In a letter posted late Wednesday on Web sites where Al Qaeda supporters and other militants leave messages, a man who identifies himself as Saad al-Mu'men — a pseudonym meaning "Saad The Believer," — urges militants to spare Johnson, saying killing him would violate Islamic law. "I will curse you in all my prayers" if he is harmed, it warned.<br /><br />The writer said he had given Johnson his protection under Islam, and quoted the Prophet Muhammad as saying: "If they were granted (Muslim) protection, then killing or taking their money or harming them is forbidden."<br /><br />The writer also said Johnson had expressed opposition to U.S. foreign policy and an interest in converting to Islam.<br /><br />The letter was posted on Web sites known for Islamic extremist writings and was subsequently posted on the Web site of the Saudi-owned satellite television channel Al-Arabiya.<br /><br />Other contributors to the Islamic Web sites ridiculed the message and called for Johnson's death.<br /><br />Al-Arabiya told the AP that al-Mu'men had contacted the station but agreed to be identified only by the pseudonym. The station said it had confirmed the man it interviewed was the author of the letter, but it did not say how.<br /><br />Al-Mu'men refused an interview with the AP in a message relayed through the station.<br /><br />Friends and relatives of Johnson sang "Amazing Grace" and "God Bless America" as they held candles and small flags at a vigil late Thursday in Eagleswood, New Jersey, a town where the engineer grew up.<br /><br />"Your love, your prayers and your support are appreciated," his niece Angel Roork said at the vigil.<br /><br />Amid concern over Johnson's fate, the U.S. State Department updated a 2-month-old travel warning for Saudi Arabia, pointing out that attacks on Americans there have resulted in deaths and injuries and, in a reference to Johnson, a kidnapping.<br /><br />This literally makes me sick to my stomach. :(
 

FLATHEAD

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If these kidnappers are so tough why don't they pull that mask off. Show their face!!! Friken cowards thats all they are. It's time to take off the kid gloves and hammer these jerks!!!
 

mellowyellow

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MY thoughts and prayers for his family as well.<br />and FH, coward is too kind of a description IMO.
 

LadyFish

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How much longer can the US afford to play any longer with the Saudi's?<br /><br />The US better not even give these terrorist scum one ounce of what they want, and instead, knock the living snot out of them.<br /><br />Maybe a swell of righteous anger from the American people will shake these pissypant politicians out of their myopic view of how we achieve our goal.
 

samagee

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What would it take to form a demonstration in Washington? Or would it be best to just go visit Congress and give a talk?
 

Butch Ammon

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May I suggest making Saudi Arabia into a 2000 square mile "parking lot"?!? :mad: <br /><br />Butch A.
 

NOSLEEP

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The Saudis should of responded with the only thing<br />the the terrorists would likely of heeded.<br />If Mr Johnson is executed. Then they would respond<br />by executing 2 of there comrades in the prison<br />starting with the highest of stature.<br /><br />.....I know, they cant do that because its wrong.<br /><br />Just shoot them all then.............
 

12Footer

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Instead of releasing the prisoners in Abu Grieb, we should get more. Fill the sombench to the walls with mutant human debris. Whenever they abduct a civilian, we abduct a couple of the monkey men in towels, found to be jumping up and down on the roofs of the burned wreckage of a SUV or HUMV, and stick them in Abu. Put a towel over the heads of a couple "American insurgiants", arm them with 50Cal gats on tripod, and roll camera;<br /><br />"To members of the group calling itself 'Alqueda'. America is at war with you. We hold here one of your useless members. His name is Yada Bededee (or whatever). Unless any and all citizens of the USA,thier contractors,regardless of country of origin who are currently held by you vermin are released in good health within 24hours, and placed safely in the hands of coalition forces, Mr Bededee and five of his comrads in our custody will be summarily executed, and thier bodies left to rot in a vat of pig fat.<br />This will be repeated with other prisoners in US Custody man-for-man. Let it be known that the United States of America meets any technique used against it in the arena of battle, with swift and overwhelming retaliation in kind.And let this video be a warning ,the bararism you bring to this battle will no longer be tolerated .or go unanswered by coalition forces".<br /><br /><br />That should do the trick in less than two days!
 

SS MAYFLOAT

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The Saudis could have released the Alqueda prisoners, but first with their tongues cut out, their eardrums destroyed, and their eysight removed. Then they would be harmless.<br /><br />Can't hear to take orders<br />Cant' talk to give orders<br />Can't see to read orders<br />Can't see to use a car bomb<br /><br />Any terroist should not be treated in accordance with the Geneva Convention. It is truely shameful on their brutality toward innocent victims.<br /><br />Our thoughts and prayers are out to the Johnson family also.
 

NOSLEEP

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So it sounds like the Saudis have killed the<br />al queda leader in Saudi shortly after the execution<br />of Johnson.
 

kenimpzoom

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Score one for the good guys!!!<br /><br />""Shortly after discovering Johnson's body, Saudi police swooped down on the al-Malz neighborhood in central Riyadh and exchanged fire with al-Qaida suspects. <br /><br /><br />Saudi officials in Washington said on condition of anonymity that four militants and five Saudi security officers were killed in the gunbattle, and that fighting was continuing. Two suspects escaped, said one Saudi security official who took part in the raid. <br /><br /><br />A U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, confirmed that al-Moqrin, 31, was one of the dead. A Saudi official said forensic tests would be conducted on the body to confirm his identity. <br /><br /><br />The Saudi-owned Al-Arabiya TV identified two of the dead militants as brothers Faisal Abdulrahman Abdullah Al Dakheel and Bandar Abdulrahman Abdullah Al Dakheel, both on the government's most-wanted list. <br /><br /><br />Al-Moqrin's fighters are blamed in a string of terror strikes in Saudi Arabia in recent months, among them the May 29 shooting and hostage-taking attack on the oil hub of Khobar that killed 22 people, most of them foreign, and the Nov. 8, 2003 suicide bombing at Riyadh housing compounds that killed 17, most of them non-Saudi Muslims working in the kingdom. ""
 

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Yes. That is good news for sure.<br />At least they won't be killing anyone else.<br /><br />I hope they get all of them and kill them all. :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

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This is bad news. When I saw his wife and his son on national and international media begging for his release, I kind of cringed.<br />I doubt if anything would have worked, but for sure that wouldn't, as these thugs wanted the publicity. The best approach might have been to ignore the whole thing, and hope the lack of publicity would make the whole thing pretty pointless to the terrorists.<br /><br />Perhaps, at some point in time, there will be enough outrage in reasonable middle eastern circles that they will finally get serious in fighting this threat--it is a threat to them every bit as much as it is a threat to us--this is the only way we will ever make progress on this war.<br /><br />If it turns into a full-fledged religious war between Muslims and westerners, no one can win and everyone (except the terrorists, perhaps) loses..
 
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