Apology

[KennyKenCan]

Re: Apology

Hey plywoody, <br /><br />Once again you got it all wrong. First off, 99% of United States citizens would not not know that PEI is a providence in Canada and if the question was put to Mr. Bush as Prince Edward Island (PEI) instead, he would have been better suited to answer the question! Do you know where C.I. is in New York State. I bet you don't and I would not expect a foreign leader to know that either.<br /><br />Then you go and rant about the tariffs being applied to Canadian softwood lumber and farm products. Well just for the record Canada has tariffs on every product imported into it, from automobiles to zippers, even the products manufactured in Canada by foriegn companies such as Ford and IBM have tariffs on them!<br /><br />Then you rant how Mr.Bush did not go to Canada first after the election. Be advised that it was a tradition for Mrs. Bill Clinton to go to Canada first, not the other previous presidents.<br /><br />Then you go about saying that the United States targeted Canadian troops in Afganistan, which is totaly false. Freindly fire incidences have happened in every war ever fought going all the way back to the caveman. Just look at the number of American soldiers in WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam and the Persian Gulf accidently killed by Canadians! This was an unintented incident and the United States has shown its regrets and sympathy, case closed!<br /><br />So, in conclusion plywoody, get your facts straight before you rant!

 

[SCO]

Re: Apology

I don't for the life of me understand this blame America first mentality. I'm for a new group: love America first. Actually, it's the oldest group, est. 1776.

 

[KennyKenCan]

Re: Apology

Hey SCO,<br /><br />I already belong, have since birth!

 

[plywoody]

Re: Apology

My facts are straight. We negotiated NAFTA that eliminated all those little tarriffs. Apparently, however, that is only when it is convenient for us. While most in the US are probably not even familiar with issues like the lumber tariff, let me assure you the Canadians are, as it is a news item in virtually every national publication on a daily basis.<br /><br />And while every American may not know where PEI is, one would expect the leader of this country to know, as one would hope he is just a little more knowlegable than the average American. One could hope, at least.<br /><br />As for the blame Amnerica first, as you call it, Let me try to explain.<br /><br />First off, we are Americans. What little influence we have is with America and its leaders.<br /><br />When you blame others, like the Canadians, or the French, or any other group outside our influence, it is in effect giving up control over the situation.<br /><br />To the extent that America could do things better, or more diplomatically, than they have, whose fault could that be but America's?

 

[KennyKenCan]

Re: Apology

Hey plywoody, wrong again!<br /><br />You bring up NAFTA and again make false claims. Have you ever tryed to move to Canada from the United States? Well let me tell you something. The Canadian Government will open your moving truck and inventory every item in that truck at the border, for the purpose of taxing every item you wish to bring with you into Canada. That will cost that person thoasands of dollars, but that is participation in NAFTA, I think not! Now if a Canadian wishes to move from Canada to the United States, his or her personal items are not ransacked and inventoried, instead, providing they have the correct documentation, are allowed entrance to the United States, TAX FREE! Remember Canada signed NAFTA too...not just the United States and Mexico.<br /><br />As far as Mr. Bush not knowing where PEI was, I know that if the Canadian reporter would have asked the question as "did Mr. Bush know where Prince Edward Island was" instead of PEI, as any good reporter would have, that reporter probably would have gotten an answer. Instead, this reporter delibertly used an anacronym to trip up the President, so as to have fuel for that reporters single sided passifest veiwpoint.<br /><br />Now there is no arguing that Canadians are Americans. But why is it every time there is a problem, the Canadians go running to Mother England, instead of talking to their neighbors, the United States?<br /><br />Another thing. The United States has not blamed Canada or France of anything, especially Canada. The United States at this time just does not agree with France's policy on Iraq and that is the right of any free country, just as France does not agree with the United States' policy on Iraq.<br /><br />Just remember this, France backed the United States during the Revolutionary War, Canada backed England!

 

[SCO]

Re: Apology

This was apparently a liberal MP. Could be plain old partisan differences. Everytime some idiot lays a slur on us, doesn't mean the idiot has some righteous basis for it.

 

[plywoody]

Re: Apology

First of all, a "tax" is different than a duty. Canada is still a sovereign nation, and has a right to collect their taxes (GST;PST) on purchases made outside their borders for items to be used within the border. While their tax policy may well not be to your liking, it is a completely different issue.<br />Second, "PEI" is not some obscure acronym, but the normal name Canadians use when referring to that province.<br />Third is that the title of this thread is "Apology" refering to a supposed apology needed for a Canadian politician speaking his/her mind. I only point out specific reasons and attitudes displayed by the US to their Canadian neighbors that can and do establish a cause of concern, that Canada is indeed a sovereign nation, and that they have every right to voice their concerns, with no apologies necessary.

 

[NOSLEEP]

Re: Apology

In the 21 st century ,it should not be considered<br />normal or acceptable behavior for an elected<br />official of a leading political party to express<br />their personal political or private opinion, <br />using profanity or not. These MP's do not speak<br />for CANADA under any forum and that is why their<br />outrageous remarks are under scrutiny, and should<br />not be considered acceptable.

 

[martyscher]

Re: Apology

NOSLEEP,<br /><br />If your politician's actions are unacceptable, it's up to you and your countrymen to do something about it.<br /><br />You should have some laws similar to "impeachment" or "recall", to get them out of office.<br /><br />At the least, you should vote them out of office in your next election.<br /><br />Good luck.