Any tips for safely shortening a trailer?

Headhunter24

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Ill get right to the point here if nobody wants to read my really long explanation below for this question. My boat doesnt fit in my garage and I have to make it fit or I cant keep it. My only idea is to cut the tongue where I need to make it fit in the garage and add on a heavy duty steel plate coupler or whatever you want to call it, for when I tow it. I figure a foot and a half snug fit steel plate mold of the top and sides of the trailer with some big bolts. I know it sounds stupid or crazy, but I know theres tons of people who have had this problem and had to find a way to safely alter their trailer. So im asking for tips or anything anybody has done like this to their trailer before? Thanks Dan.

Alright I'm new here and have only been boating for 1 summer so far. I got a 1984 18' Renken I take out on Lake Erie. Ok, so heres my problem. The boat and trailer dont fit in my garage. The tongue sticks out about a foot and a few inches. All last summer I was forced to deal with it and close the garage door onto the tongue but my neighbors complained a bit which leads to my next problem is I cant keep it outside because I live in a small apartment building. Storage unit is out of the question for me for multiple reasons. So now, after having to store it an hour away all winter long at my parents house, its time that I do something about this as boating season is coming up. There are no other options here except these... 1. Shorten the boat trailer... 2. Drive 2 hours out of the way, waste tons of gas or 3. Sell the boat. Quite frankly, options 2 and 3 I refuse to do. And I have tried all options angleing the boat in the garage. So anyway, I need to find a safe way to cut the tongue and make some kind of coupling or adapter out of metal. I seen online that they have these hinges that you can buy and install yourself, but they seem expensive. I got plenty of thick steel plates that I can use for something that would do. I figure I would make a snug fit mold of the top and sides of the tongue maybe about a foot and a half long with the steel plate and drill some good sized holes, but not too big, and put heavy duty bolts in place. And heck, even for some sort of extra safety I could put chains on the original part of the trailer to extend to my truck if possible. So I guess I want to ask if anyone on here has done something like this to their boat and how things worked out for them? I know its not the best of ideas to alter the trailer structure and stuff but I love boating and it may be my only option unless I hit the lottery. Well I think I wrote enough. Thanks, Dan
 

shepster

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Re: Any tips for safely shortening a trailer?

Go look at some wakeboard boat trailers. They have a swing away hitch on them so you can fit into the garage. You can at least get some ideas how to miodify or trade for one.
 

j_martin

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Re: Any tips for safely shortening a trailer?

Don't know the weight involved or the configuration of the tongue part of the trailer or whether it has brakes, etc, so this is just a wild guess.

Look at how a class 2 receiver hitch is made. A piece of square tubing slipped inside another about 6 inches and held with a single pin should work just fine. Your local welding shop probably has the metal laying around to get the job done. The trick is to design it to handle the loads expected and of course, good welding.
 

H20Rat

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Re: Any tips for safely shortening a trailer?

You are overthinking it! Buy this, install, and have a beer...

http://www.iboats.com/Fulton-34-Bol...3130376--**********.387823358--view_id.341674

I wouldn't consider $100 expensive, for a boat that is a relatively minor cost. If you have to run around to various fab shops to piece something together you are going to spend more than that, if not just in gas by the time you are done.
 

Captain Caveman

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Re: Any tips for safely shortening a trailer?

Exactly. There are several kits for converting a straight trailer tongue into a swivel. If you're not confident, maybe cruise a few old boat yards and see if someone will swap trailers with you (for a fee of course). You might find an old boat sitting on a swivel trailer.

If we are talking inches (after getting the swivel tongue), you can also move the post forward on the front of the trailer. Just make sure that you aren't winching the back of the boat past the rear rollers.
 

lonesouth

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Re: Any tips for safely shortening a trailer?

modifying the trailer with the swing coupler is easy. A couple of things to note.

Read the instructions, it will save you some time and headache.

The cut required is perpendicular to the tongue. I made a beautiful angled cut to match the bracket, only to discover that the bracket requires a square cut.

Be sure you have a good, sharp, drillbit before you start.

Pick up some heat shrink tubing so your wire splices are better protected. The auto stores sell some with adhesive inside that seals the repair.

That's about it. Pretty simple, and makes a huge difference. Not only will it fit in the garage, but you won't bust your shins/knees on it when you walk around the end.
 

Headhunter24

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Re: Any tips for safely shortening a trailer?

Hey thanks for all the tips and ill actually be out today workin on the boat and seeing whats the best idea but at least with all the positive replies i know ill go ahead and find a good way to shorten it soon. Thanks
 

nlain

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Re: Any tips for safely shortening a trailer?

I don't know if you have brakes on your trailer or not, but if you do and they are surge brakes or electric over hydraulic, then you have a master cylinder and steel brake line in the tongue of the trailer. If this is the case then you need to get the hinge and install it on the tongue, replace the steel line with a flexible brake line so it can bend when you fold the tongue. If you have electric brakes or no brakes this would not apply.
 

Headhunter24

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Re: Any tips for safely shortening a trailer?

its a just a basic rustyish old tee-nee trailer with no brakes. I now noticed after making my measurements today, that the wheel jack is right where i need to make my cut and that is right up against the winch stand or whatever you call it. Ill try to post a pic with my stuff on it if anyone cares to give me some suggestions!
 

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nlain

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Re: Any tips for safely shortening a trailer?

Suggestion, from looking at the picture, move the jack back, drill through the winch stand and mount the jack there, you may even be able to use the forward winch stand bolt holes for the front jack bolts, longer bolts probably will be required. That would give you room to make the modification to the tongue to fold it back.
 

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Re: Any tips for safely shortening a trailer?

I needed to do the same thing for my garage ... instead of swinging the tongue, I just removed the coupler, cut the trailer where I needed, redrilled holes, and reattached the coupler. The trailer was now 14 inches shorter and fit into the garage with ease. Because of the shorter trailer, I needed to adjust the rollers a little to balance the trailer better. I also need to be careful backing the trailer with the rear "Barn Door" of the Yukon open because the bow will bang again the door on a sharp turn, but other than that, it presents no problem. No problem with the state inspection, either.
 

sublauxation

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Re: Any tips for safely shortening a trailer?

You could probably save 6-10 inches with a different winch stand.
 

LippCJ7

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Re: Any tips for safely shortening a trailer?

You could probably save 6-10 inches with a different winch stand.

+1, that winch stand looks like the same one used for CVN-65 USS Enterprise Aircraft Carrier!
 
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