Any saving the engine? I’m devastated

[racerone]

There are no points in this motor.----If you got it running within 6 hrs or so the bearings are fine.

 

[Scott Danforth]

It wasn’t running when it sank.
Does that mean that the starter is likely fine?

NO

 

[racerone]

Need to accept the fact that starter needs to be taken apart for cleaning / drying.-----Lube the bushings.----A new set of brushes would likely be a good step to take as well.----Easy and simple to do.

 

[jimmbo]

I guess if the OP is willing to buy a Starter in a yr or so, and looks forward to having to Rope Start the Motor, or Paddle home, he doesn't Need to take it apart, clean and lube it

 

[Scott14o]

it stays on Lake St Clair in Olympia which isn’t too big. If I have to paddle home one day it won’t be the worst thing to happen haha.

Should I be concerned with all of these connections? They all got wet even though there was a cover with a gasket over them

 

[jimmbo]

It wouldn't hurt if you unscrewed them, cleaned the area, hit them with some Deox. Of course there is the risk of Damaging the Wire and/or Connector Ends...
The Motor is a 74 and thus 50 yrs old

 

[flashback]

Really need an automatic bilge pump so this doesn't happen again. I was thinking you might have forgotten to put the drain plug in.

 

[saltchuckmatt]

Well it could have been running at the dock while tied up. Just to set that straight.

If the motor wasn't running when it entered the water you don't have to do very much.... Especially in freshwater.

Starter needs to come apart. Pretty easy really, brushes are the hardest part to re-install.

I live in Seattle, and have a place up near Stanwood....lots of boat information via phone if you like.

If interested let me know and I'll send you a private message.

What lots of people don't know on here, is that old outboard starters and harnesses here are a dime a dozen.....at least for that outboard.

PS Most people swamp because they forgot to put the plug in!

Matt

 

[Chris1956]

Gee, put the starter in the oven for 45 min at 250*F. No disassembly needed for fresh water.

 

[tphoyt]

That would pair well with a fine vintage Bakelite Solenoid.

 

[racerone]

If it has the Bosch starter ?-----Those are elegantly simple to work on.----Easy to install new brushes.----I use brushes at $6.50 / kit.---Nothing to them.

 

[racerone]

I see it has that other starter.----Still easy to take apart to dry it out and lube bushings.

 

[flashback]

I see it has that other starter.----Still easy to take apart to dry it out and lube bushings.

Yep, it can't hurt as old as it is, you'll be doing it a favor.

 

[Scott14o]

Well it could have been running at the dock while tied up. Just to set that straight.

If the motor wasn't running when it entered the water you don't have to do very much.... Especially in freshwater.

Starter needs to come apart. Pretty easy really, brushes are the hardest part to re-install.

I live in Seattle, and have a place up near Stanwood....lots of boat information via phone if you like.

If interested let me know and I'll send you a private message.

What lots of people don't know on here, is that old outboard starters and harnesses here are a dime a dozen.....at least for that outboard.

PS Most people swamp because they forgot to put the plug in!

Matt

Oh very nice. I appreciate that.

I’ll want to do the impeller before I put it back in the water. Hasn’t been changed it probably 15 years (although it was only used for like 3 summers during that time.
I have a temp gun and temps stayed around 140 F at the hottest part of the engine so I guess it’s working. This model does not have a tell tail.

I got a quote from a mobile boat mechanic last year who I think said he’d charge 400. That’s probably close to what the whole engine is worth but what do you guys think?

 

[tphoyt]

I think you can do it your self. It’s not a complicated job. Should be done at least every 5 years regardless of use. The impeller dries out and becomes hard and brittle with time.
Broken fins can cause blockage and be a pain to find and remove. It’s worth doing the regular maintenance.

 

[Scott14o]

I think you can do it your self. It’s not a complicated job. Should be done at least every 5 years regardless of use. The impeller dries out and becomes hard and brittle with time.
Broken fins can cause blockage and be a pain to find and remove. It’s worth doing the regular maintenance.

Ok yeah, I know when I asked last year everyone said to do it. I’ll watch some videos see if I can do it myself.

 

[GSX455]

I would add some Kroil or Marvel mystery oil to the 2 stroke gas, in case of any corrosion

 

[saltchuckmatt]

New in a can does not exist. Little bit of tranny fluid or pearl oil.

Run it until it smokes real bad and shut her off. Let it sit a day and fire it up and let it rip, stuff will shoot everywhere!

 

[Chris1956]

Gee, I lost the thread. Why do you want to add tranny fluid, Kroll, pearl oil, Marvel Mystery oil or something to the fuel?

At this point if there is any rust on the steel parts, the damage is done.

Also, MMO is made to be burned, but I am not sure about the tranny fluid, Pearl Oil or Kroll. Some may have metallic additives which are bad to burn in engines, for the same reason you do not want to mix a detergent oil in the fuel, in lieu of 2 cycle oil.

2 cycle oil is plenty lubricating and is made to be burned. Just my opinion.

 

[saltchuckmatt]

Kroll? Never mentioned that.

It de-carbons....de-whatever you need stuff. Common on every mechanics shelf.

No special crap needed.