Another MFG ID question

[maxpower_hd]

Hello all. I am new to the forum but not new to the boat or forums in general. Anyway......

I have a MFG that I thought for years was a 1970 Edinboro and actually looks nearly identical to the one pictured in the brochure on fiberglassics' web site other than the original interior colors. The photo shows black and red and even mentions it in the brochure. My original colors were tan seats/floor and white (or off white) everything else. The reason I believed it to be a 1970 is that my Dad owned this boat for years and said it was. He sold it to a friend and I ended up buying it back in 1998 or so. So I have basically had this boat around me for 20+ years. I had other priorities and haven't used the boat in about 7 or so years. I recently got it running and just re-registered it so I can test drive it and work out the bugs. While looking through old records to renew the VERY expired registration, I came across the title the state issued to me long ago. The title says 1973. However, I cannot find a model that looks like mine for 73 in the brochure.

The other issue is that the boat.....ehemm....may or may not be over powered...since someone re-powered the boat with a 90HP engine. I do know that once upon a time the tag said max HP = 85. However the plate was removed during a resto years ago and lost. Thus I have know way to confirm the year.

Does anyone know of another way to confirm the year? Is there a hull stamp or something someplace? I want to restore it again but this time to a more original appearance.

Any help would be appreciated.

 

[mr 88]

Re: Another MFG ID question

Year wise I would go with what your Dad told you and then use the color combo thats listed on fiberglassics to comfirm.I think the stats and colors listed on the brochures would be more telling of the actuall year.Sometimes the reg numbers get fudged over the years,misread at the DMV or not registered right away, many reasons.What year is the trailer? Sometimes there is a tag under the splashwell with ID numbers.As far as the hp goes 5 hp is not going to be a deal/transom breaker if the tran is solid..What does the brochure list as max hp?If you are going for original then you may look to buy a motor under 85 of that time period if that is what it is rated for.I like old Mercs!!!

 

[maxpower_hd]

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I will look under the splash well and see what I can find. I may even find the tag in my stored away "boat stuff" eventually. The trailer was also replaced when our friend owned it. In fact I still have it and modified it into a utility trailer. There aren't any markings at all on it though. I registered that as home made.

The brochure only showed the black and red seats so I am not going with that. Too hot in the sun.

My father bought it with an 85 I think on it originally. That blew up long ago. It was rebuilt at a marina and he had lot's of issues with it. So they finally upgraded him to the 90 for just a few extra bucks to get out of it since they were going to have to eat the other one. I think the 85 was a 73. The new one is an 83.


Thanks for the input.

 

[*EdC*]

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If you are sure it's an Edinboro....... And it's two tone, beige and brown. It's a 1969.
That was the only year MFG did those colors. I have one. check my restro link at the bottom.

 

[maxpower_hd]

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Thanks Ed. I think mine may just be a 69 then. You had one photo in your link of a boat where you were talking about the original gauges. It had tan seats. That is EXACTLY what mine looked like when my father bought it. I replaced the seats with white ones like you have because the originals rotted away. I did find the original plate in a box over the weekend. It doens't list the year but the serial number looks like it is just 9300. I might be missing a 0. I figured it may have meant Sept 30 1970 but I'm not sure. It may be possible that it was a 1969 originally bought in 1970. It still has a tan floor with carpet over it. The exterior stripe was repainted black before I got it and all the stickers inside were replaced with white, blue and black. The armrests are still tan as well although they need to be replaced. I'll post some pics once I finish cleaning the muck and gunk off it.

I like your resto. I'm not sure my budget will allow the extensive resto you did but I am also starting with something pretty solid but it is currently quite a mess. The entire hull was painted with marine paint years ago when my dad owned it and is still mostly in good shape except the top side. I think I might rough it up and repaint for now. My first step, which I almost finished this weekend, is to clean the mouse pee smell out of, put in new fuel lines, add a water separator, add a tell tale for the water pump and get her in the water to see how it does. I will go from there. All I have left now is to add fuel and pressure wash some mud and mold to do the test run. Oh yeah, and fix the windshield where the tree fell on it during it's 7 year hiatus.

Thanks again.

 

[maxpower_hd]

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Well I confirmed the plate does indeed say Edinboro and the serial is simply 9300. I took a few photos so I can show some progress and compare them later.

I have to figure out how to get them on here apparently. I'll post them later.

 

[*EdC*]

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Wow a 69 edinboro..... They are rare I think I have only seen one other. Way cool looking foward to seeing your photos

 

[maxpower_hd]

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Can you tell it's a 1969 from the tag or from the colors? How do you interpret the numbers?

Here are a few pics. It really is in better shape than it looks. It just still has mud and crap all over it from sitting. The seats were actually new when I parked it.

I may consider selling to fund a different project boat more suited to my needs but I want to get it sea worthy, clean and running right first. Maybe this weekend.

 

[*EdC*]

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Yep that sure seems to look like a 69. The windshield is different on the 69. It has a plastic strip at the corners. the 70 had an all aluminum frame.

PS I'll buy the original seats if you have them!!

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr3/modelerman/th_P8310089-1.jpg

 

[maxpower_hd]

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Sorry Ed. They were thrown out long ago. They were beyond repair. Foam was junk, plywood bases were rotted completely, threads were dry rotted on the material was in tough shape. Thus the new white ones.

Thanks for the info. Would you happen to know where I could get the top rail for the windshield? I'm not sure I can save the bent one I have.

 

[*EdC*]

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Maxpower,

First things first...... MFG windshields were made by Taylor Made Products. In the late 60's there were several small, but significant changes. Depending on the year, you may have a frame that takes 1/8'' glass or 3/16" thick glass.
If you know the glass thickness, you can determine the size/type gasket. The gasket will determine the extrusion profile of the aluminum frame.
I had a look at one of your pics. From what I can see, you have a clear plastic strip(once clear now yellowed) at the outside corners. If so, than you most likely have a frame that takes 3/16" thick glass. This was first used in '68. Around 1970 they changed the gasket to accept 1/8'' glass. I'm not certian if the extrusion was changed also. My guess is... it was. In 1970 they also did away with the plastic strips.. That year they had a full aluminum frame at the corners. I wouldn't be surprised if the changes appeared in the 1969 model as well.

hope that helps..

BTW....... I see you're not too far from me

 

[yanks21]

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Taylormade is still in business. Their Corporate headquarters and boat glass plant is still in Gloversville, NY. Not far from me. Here is a llink: www.taylormadegroup.com
They may be able to help you out, as they used to do custom work once in a while. @ least, they may be able to get you the materials...
Just a thought...

 

[maxpower_hd]

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Thanks for all the help guys. I was able to straighten the frame well enough to use for now. A friend of mine is a glass guy so he can help me out with the glass itself. We just haven't been able to meet up yet.

No I'm not too far from you Ed. Most of the little time I have lately has been spent on my OTHER boat. A 58' Herter's I just got it powered. Now I'm trying to get it registered in order to test before I go any further. I'm having to do some "creative" paper work to get it all squared away.

 

[*EdC*]

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Max
My center window was broken when I got my boat. Someone installed a piece of plexi in it. Looked lousy. Finding the rubber gasket was a real pain. But they are out there if you look around. Had a new piece of tempered glass made and installed in the frame for $63.00 bucks..