Another Maine Starchief

StarTed

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Nice workmanship.

The step plate reminds me that mine need new inserts. Mine say Starcraft on them but are quite worn and aged. Do you know where one can find replacements?

I like your boat a lot. You have good taste and good skills.
 

oldhaven

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Iboats is out of stock right now, but I used these:

Hatch / Lift Spring (Attwood Marine)

So if you look that up you should find a supplier. I used the Attwood ones since they have SS end fitting brackets that were easy to use on the hatch and coaming. Some other less expensive springs of similar concept are available here but use plastic or other end fittings I did not think would work as well, but they might be fine. I used two, since I added the weight of a plywood reinforcement to the hatch, but probably one is enough for a standard hatch. The plywood reinforcement is also a good place to anchor the upper end of the support.

Ron
 

Watermann

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Nice work Ron, she's really looking great. :thumb:
 

oldhaven

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Thanks guys. The step pad's frames are a bit rough, but I like the trapezoid shape. New ones are not available and I could not find inserts that fit. You can get new modern plates that look fine, but are not as vintage looking. I thought about modifying other rubber or vinyl inserts or pieces of floor mats, but in the end it would have been as much work as just making new ones from some scrap teak I had knocking about, and wood pads are pretty traditional. It helps to have a milling machine. Here is another area where making a mold and pouring your own with Starcraft logo would not be that hard and others would appreciate it.

Ron
 

laurentide

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Everything looks fantastic. It's all subjective but that's the nicest SC interior I've seen, and it's not even come yet. What a great boat!

Edit: I need a slide track for my helm seat...there's no way to be comfortable when underway with one position, but closer to the helm would make it impossible to get into. You're thinking ahead again!
 
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BMerr509

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OldH- Gotta echo what everyone else has said, awesome electrical work, really is too bad about the tank. i just finished the entire thread. Retro paint style and classic interior. Are you finished with the cabin or do you have more plans for it? Also, where did you get that transom plate? I've looked but i cannot find the one you have.

Since i'm probably going to get the same exact motor as you, let me know if there's any regret as our boats are very similar in size/weight. Or if you'd do anything differently with the build itself looking back.

Beautiful boat. Congrats!
 

oldhaven

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BMerr, I guess the boat is retro, but I am from that era so it just looks normal to me... The cabin will have a bit more done to it in the future, and I have painted the plywood and fastened most of it down since the last pictures. I would like to insulate and cover the hull in there, but we will see. I also just got a Thetford Portable toilet, and I have to figure out whether I will cut a place for it forward of the cabin sole area.

If you mean the plate I have on the transom outside, it was a 5' long piece of 1/8" 5052 I ordered from Metals Depot. I had to cut it to shape, no big deal with a good jig saw, though tedious and loud..

As for the Merc 4 stroke, no complaints at all, but I only have two hours on it so far. It is quiet, starts instantly, and sips fuel at idle and low rpm's. It pushes the boat to near 40, and gets there fast. I will know more about it in another month or two when I have used it a bit more. Right now I am still getting the boat ready for passengers.

I installed the passenger seat, and it seems a bit high, but looking around at other Chiefs, the cushion tops on pedestal seats are about at the same height as the mesh on this one. I will definitely have to add the footrests I planned on, without built in boxes to stand on, but am going to wait on deciding whether the seat is OK as it is so I can put them at a good height. If I need to I will install extensions from the gunwales to the sidewalls and lower the seats. The helm seat will require a bit more thought to avoid the controls and be at the correct distance from the wheel. As Chem noticed, It is going to have a slide so I can push it back when standing and forward closer to the wheel for sitting. It will be used as a leaning post when standing. I am using detachable swivels on both so I can store them inside when not using the boat, and the fold down platforms work quite nicely and are out of the way when down with the seats removed. I still have to do some finish trimming and paint work on the wood platform when I get both done. I bought two teak single loop hand rails that will help with passenger comfort and getting in and out of the cabin.

Ron

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Are you doing a similar seat set up for the helm? I have to wonder if they are ABYC helm rated seats, I know back in the day when the boats were built with those style seats that they didn't have the ratings. They really look lightweight in the pics.
 

oldhaven

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Hi WM,

I could not find a specific rating for this seat, other than a company statement that all Garelick seats are ABYC compliant. No number rating for this one. They do advertise this as 75014 Helmsman Side Mount seat hardware: "Gives added support. Recommended for heavy people and boats used in rough water". The one I have installed is quite sturdy. Neither of us weighs more than 162, so we are probably fine, and in heavy water the captain will order all hands off their butts and out of the rigging. I note several other users who have them, so maybe they can pipe in with their experiences. From reading about their OEM use, the biggest problem is in the gunwales sheet metal tearing out, and I am reinforcing that on both sides. I can see that a modern 2+ foot tall pedestal mount could exert a lot of force at its base and seat mount and require a higher standard.
 

oldhaven

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I decided the passenger seat was too high, so I made some extensions to lower it and and the helm seat. Just got that done and the wood supports painted and then mounted the folding footrests.

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Patfromny

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She is just beautiful OH. The wood in the interior is just perfect. I don't remember what you used for those side panels. I guess I'm getting old. I love the look of them with the caulking between like an old woody. Just perfect. I was scanning the pics and had to go back to the 5th one. I thought the seats said Maine on them but they actually say Marine. Never realized how, for all these years, Maine has been missing an R. Lol
 

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IIRC its actually mahogany and holly ply, and looks awesome!
 

Patfromny

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Sure does. Really fits the total look of this boat better than most. Nice work as always
 

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I'm really loving those seats, OH! Awesome work. Will be considering the same for my Chief. :thumb:
 

laurentide

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Looks great, Ron! I like the seats themselves, are they comfortable? I'm thinking they're way easier to clean than foam and vinyl. The whole seating system is really well thought out and executed.

Edit: do you have an anchor light yet?
 
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g0nef1sshn

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I'm really loving those seats, OH! Awesome work. Will be considering the same for my Chief. :thumb:

Might see several attempts at that interior and exterior color combo in the next few years! That thing is sexy!:whip:
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oldhaven

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Thanks again for the encouragement. It seems to me that the nice thing about aluminum boats is that once they are stripped out, they are a blank canvas to do whatever you want to them, either stay original or do something completely different. A glass boat does not allow as many personal touches without a whole lot more work since a lot of the parts removed when getting down to an aluminum bare hull are molded into the glass boat. We can give our whims and preferences free rein. I was going for a clear deck so I can use snap in carpeting over it, thus the folding furniture not attached to the deck.

The side panels are teak and holly 1/2" ply. The stuff can be outrageously expensive, but I got a great deal on leftovers of it and a lot of teak lumber of various dimensions that were surplus to a well-to-do guy's sailboat rebuild when he put it all on Craigslist. I still have enough 3/4 thick planks to do some rear sliding doors and a bit more trim here and there. I like the fact that the dimensional teak can be treated with teak oil for less maintenance than varnish. I did varnish the side panels. ( Called ceilings, oddly enough, in boat jargon)

The chairs are very comfortable. A bit like Herman Miller office chairs. They are a bit wider than I would like, and take up a bit of valuable space near the cabin door, but not unnacceptably so. I think they will be great during hot weather, but I may need to throw a towel over the mesh during the shoulder seasons to be a bit warmer. Still, the manufacturer started out in business making similar tree stand chairs so they do stand up to abuse. They are white so I had to be careful about dirty work hands during installation, but the manufacturer recommends 409 to clean if necessary. I hope being able to remove them when not in use will help with keeping them nice. I could have gotten them in gray. The helm seat slide worked out well and does what I intended, allowing for comfortable sitting up close and moving back for standing and using the seat as a leaning post. It did require some thought because of the stack height of detachable swivel and slide, plus the seats are pretty tall anyway because of the underpinnings. The mounting extensions I made had to be different port and starboard due to differing seat heights. I have seen folding legs that can be used with boat seats, and I thought that putting extra QD brackets on them might allow me to use the seats off the boat when going ashore for lunch or a visit. I am going to use folding canvas chairs in the back for the occasional time we have more than two in the boat. I may put in another set of folding brackets to use for a table in the rear. We'll see.

Andy, I do have an anchor light, a generic Perko one, since my original was pretty wasted. It is not wired up yet and is folded down against the windshield.

Ron
 
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laurentide

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Andy, I do have an anchor light, a generic Perko one, since my original was pretty wasted. It is not wired up yet and is folded down against the windshield.

Gotcha. I drove myself to distraction trying to figure out the CG rules for masthead lights and anchor/running combos. You can use an all-around white light for both if you're under 30' or so. But I didn't have that cool stern light on mine, I'm glad you were able to re-use that.

Again, the boat looks AMAZING.
 
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