anchor size

acdc96

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i need a anchor for my boat.
1991 seanymph 14k aluminum boat with a force 9.9hp
i boat in a tidal area with some strong currents at times. sand/gravel/mud bottom

what size anchor would be best?
 

Chris1956

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Re: anchor size

A fluke-type anchor would work best. Look on the Danthford web site, as they should have a recommendation. I would think a 5# fluke anchor with 3/8" line would be more than adequate.
 

Chris1956

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Re: anchor size

Gee, Chain is overkill IMHO and a real PIA. If it bothers you get 1 size anchor larger, say 8#.
 

robert graham

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About 6 feet of chain directly above the anchor helps it hold better in a current and helps prevent anchor ropes getting cut by rocks, oyster shells, etc.....and it can/will happen!....A stainless steel anchor chain is a bit pricey but Very nice....
 

Chris1956

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Re: anchor size

You guys are kidding right? The OP has a 14 footer with a 9.9HP motor. If he goes anywhere where the current requires chain, his motor is not getting him home.

No offense ACDC.., but stay out of the sound when it is rough....
 

acdc96

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Re: anchor size

Yeah I don't go in the sound unless the waves are less than 1 foot.
The motor is strong and powerful and can get me out of a bad situation quickly.
I don't need a chain. If I had a bigger heavier boat.
Only reason I need a anchor is I lost my anchor on the seawall fishing for blackfish. I had to cut the line. And that was a homemade anchor.
That anchor had SS chain that had 5/8 thick links and 4ft long (found that on a dock that washed up on the beach. And a steel rod with 3 in nails welded on it.

If I'm in the sound and a storm comes in without warning I'll follow one of the many clam boats that come in and out of the river constantly. Getting over the double wake with a 5ft gap and a 3ft drop is a challenge.
I know my limits and the boats limit.
 

Home Cookin'

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Re: anchor size

First, Chris, you are completely wrong about not needing some chain--and I used to think it was not necessary, too. Chain is an integral part of the anchor rig, at least for a danforth on soft or shell bottoms. Without it, and I've had this happen in a 13' boat in current--the anchor can slide along and not grip. also when you drop it, in current a small anchor without extra chain weight just blows around in the current like a leaf in the wind.
Now, 6' may be too much and I go for short heavy rather than long.

acdc, you are setting yourself up for disaster, because you assume your motor will always be there for you. Anyone with experience with saltwater outboards knows better.
When you break down, you want to stay put. When, not if. This is especially true in coastal waters with currents. And even more important, the smaller the boat. So it may be counterintuitive to the inexperienced, but you need a bigger better anchor rig than a bigger boat does. Especially a tinnie.
You say you know your and your boat's limits but the weather doesn't respect that and neither do the gremlins that conk out your motor. The point you miss--a fatal flaw in your thinking--is that you don't need an anchor to sit in bad weather because you would simply go home. It's not up to you.

Remember this: your anchor rig is your #1 most important piece of safety equipment and that is its primary purpose. The fact that you can also use it for fishing and picnics is merely an added feature. And if a properly rigged anchor is a pain, take along a mushroom on 20' of line, too. That's what I often do even with small boats.
 

Texasmark

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Re: anchor size

I always had chain on my anchors regardless of boat size and Danforth, especially with the ring that slides up to the crown so that you can retrieve it if stuck in the mud or rocks is preferred. If you "do the math" the chain is what makes the anchor work. Besides they do a great job of holding for the light weight.

Mark
 

Chris1956

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Gee, I use a 2.5# Danford and 3/8" line on my 16 footer, without issue and without chain. Have for 20 years. Works real well. I guess I have been lucky all these years.

As long as the bottom is soft, and the sheer load of the boat is light, chain is optional. My 21' footer needs chain, due to it's sheer and weight.
 

acdc96

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When i go out of the river I'm usually with a bunch of other boats fishing as well.
Although an anchor is a good piece of safety equipment it's not the best.
Like I said earlier chain is good for bigger and heavier boats.
It's true, motors breakdown, every boater has at least once experienced motor failure. I have several times. Whether hitting a rock and destroying a prop to wrecking a drive or motor. It happens. I had spun the hub on my motor and had to wait for 3 hours to enter the river when the tide shifted. I've been towed in cause of electrical problems. I usually put my boat on the beach or tie it up to something when that happens.
If your going to a new area or heading out in bad conditions make a float plan.
I'm getting a 5lb danforth anchor
 
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Re: anchor size

BoatUS as well as the Coast Guard indicate that choices for Anchor Rodes are either a combination rope/chain rode or all chain. Just took the NJ boating certificate course through the coast guard and they definitely stressed chain and rope or all chain no matter what but focused on chain and rope with sizing depending on size and type of boat. I think its fairly well accepted that the most effective/safest setup is a chain and rope.
 

Home Cookin'

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I've never used my flares or even needed my PFD in 50 years so I guess I don't need to have them along, either.

Maybe lake boaters and those on extremely deep water don't need an anchor as much, but you do, acdc, on tidal water on the coast. There are countless ways it will save your bacon and in circumstances where there is no substitute. Every other safety device--every one*-- can be absent from your boat and you can survive or use alternatives. That is, if you have an anchor.

*OK except perhaps an immersion suit but that's specialty equipment for limited circumstances.
 

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Re: anchor size

To be fair, the CG needs to issue recommendations that apply to a diverse group of boaters. In this guys situation, he izs talking about a 9.9 tinner. the best practices for a tinner on a lake vs a 30'+ fishing boat in seawater are two very different things.


BoatUS as well as the Coast Guard indicate that choices for Anchor Rodes are either a combination rope/chain rode or all chain. Just took the NJ boating certificate course through the coast guard and they definitely stressed chain and rope or all chain no matter what but focused on chain and rope with sizing depending on size and type of boat. I think its fairly well accepted that the most effective/safest setup is a chain and rope.
 

acdc96

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Re: anchor size

Home cookin'... it's a chain. It's not like I don't have a anchor or rope.
When I had my rowboat I used a 5 hp Briggs engine block that was striped as an anchor with 100ft of poly rope and it would stick as soon as I dropped it in.
I have a small grappling hook anchor for emergencies with 100ft of poly rope.
Also have 2 more motors on my boat. A Minn Kota trolling motor. And a 2HP Yamaha that has been reliable and trustworthy over the years. I bring it to a Yamaha mechanic for a yearly tune up, (new impeller, new sparkplug, carb adjustments, etc.) I know I put a post that was about marinas and the cost but I forgot about my Yamaha. It cost me $80 bucks a year. Well worth it.
On my 21ft boat it has 8ft of chain and a 20lb anchor. 200ft of rope Not Poly. But it's 7ft longer and 4800 pounds. That boat is in the middle of restoration and hasn't seen the water in 8 years.

SO, don't get all worked up over a chain on a anchor. Everyone has their opinions on a topic. But it's the person who asks others for their opinion makes that decision on what they are gonna do.
 

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Re: anchor size

Home cookin'... it's a chain. It's not like I don't have a anchor or rope.
When I had my rowboat I used a 5 hp Briggs engine block that was striped as an anchor with 100ft of poly rope and it would stick as soon as I dropped it in.
I have a small grappling hook anchor for emergencies with 100ft of poly rope.
Also have 2 more motors on my boat. A Minn Kota trolling motor. And a 2HP Yamaha that has been reliable and trustworthy over the years. I bring it to a Yamaha mechanic for a yearly tune up, (new impeller, new sparkplug, carb adjustments, etc.) I know I put a post that was about marinas and the cost but I forgot about my Yamaha. It cost me $80 bucks a year. Well worth it.
On my 21ft boat it has 8ft of chain and a 20lb anchor. 200ft of rope Not Poly. But it's 7ft longer and 4800 pounds. That boat is in the middle of restoration and hasn't seen the water in 8 years.

SO, don't get all worked up over a chain on a anchor. Everyone has their opinions on a topic. But it's the person who asks others for their opinion makes that decision on what they are gonna do.

Ayuh,.... Why buy an anchor,..??

Don't ya have another piece of metal junk layin' 'round,..??
Or know a friend that does,..??

How 'bout an ole coffee can, a foot of chain, 'n a foot of concrete,..??
A plastic coffee can won't scratch things so easy,...
A cement block, 'n length of line,..??

'ell,... yer probably gotta loose it someday, anyways,.... ;)
 

acdc96

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Re: anchor size

I could use the 9.9 as an anchor. Why not it's heavy and in an emergency it's readily available. So what I don't have a motor but all I have is a boat and a anchor.
Oops I lost the drain plug better set the anchor out. M.O.B. Better set anchor.
Really!!! I ask a simple question and get all this BS.
 
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