95 Merc 200 Carb - Water restriction problem

weedenms

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Hello,

I could use some advice on what to do.

1995 Merc 200 carb. Had it five months.

Background:
Tattle tale never had strong stream (old man) On the water we noticed sputtering from the tattle tale as if under high pressure.
On the way back in I noticed a reduced throttle a couple times although position of throttle control remained the same A couple miles from ramp the engine reduced rpm to a crawl and a constant beep beep beep alarm sounded. The engine stalled and would not stay started for more than a few seconds with the alarm still going off with a constant beep beep beep as long as the key was turned to on... when it would run, NO water was coming from tattle tale. Found a tow in to the ramp.

Research suggests a cooling problem.

Replaced pump and impeller (not lower pump housing) - Still no water out of tattle tale, beeping comes back after about 20 seconds
Double check new impeller and water pump to ensure water tube is in correct position - It was
While lower unit was off:
Ensure all hoses are clear - They were and were dry
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Blew compressed air into hose going to the two thermostats - air moved ok Blew air into starboard thermostat hose - air moved easily
Blew air into port side thermostat - air more restricted
Opened thermostat covers and found medium to heavy corrosion - removed thermostats (will replace before starting again)
Blew air into each and into both without thermostats - air moved freely
Blew air into hose going to the copper water intake tube - Not much pressure.
Pressure does build with thumb over water tube end but not much pressure overall

*Noted insides of hoses are dry Replaced lower unit - assured alignments are correct. Used belt to tighten muffs but still no water into engine.

Summarize: Possible restriction between thermostat intake hose and the water intake tube at the pump.

Next:
Replacing thermostats - because they need to be
Will run test after thermostats are replaced in a garbage bin rather than ear muffs.
Not sure how to get to any intake water filter if it has one.
Don?t want to look at the starboard side poppet valve yet because the hoses are dry and need water in them before the poppet would actuate under pressure. With no water making it there it rules out thermostats and poppet.
Don't know how to get into mid section and what to look for if I do...
Some chats say not to tighten the pump housing too tight. Ya, what does that mean? Some say just snug it down... - I tightened it. Could turn shaft with hands still... maybe loosen it up???

Feeling like it's time to bring it to the shop... Am I "hosed"? Is there hope?
 

Faztbullet

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Solid beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep is overheat,beep beep beep beep is oil problem
 

weedenms

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I am thinking it might be a blockage. Called a couple local shops but cant get in for two weeks. Tis the season.

The last shop said put a water hose up to the water tube and see if you can get water to climb up and to the thermostat area. (because thats what they do) Then he said oops I probably shouldnt have told you that...lol We talked a while and i think tomorrow (it rained today) i will try using water to flush backwards and then try up the water tube. If it works Im thinking something will come out other than water.

Im gonna hold off on the poppet until end of season which isnt too long up here in MA. If I can get a stream from the tattle tale thats more than it had since i bought it.

Any other ideas?

I am really confused on alarms and am now concerned i have a faulty sensor possibly the TPS. In reading more into the manual I see the
oil is a 4 beeps and a two minute delay and then 4 more beeps.
If a faulty sensor its an alarm (doesnt say beep) that doesnt stop until you turn the key off to reset it
Overheating is a constant beep. I assume its not a beepbeepbeep... but a beeeeeeeeep.

Man they leave out important details when they write these things. If so, i am bringing it in friday to the place that helped over the phone. the guy said he might fit it in over the weekend. Im just not into buying a bunch of testers and harnesses to test these things. It does kinda make sense to me it could be a faulty sensor and especially the TPS since it will not start for more than 20 seconds and cuts off with the alarm.
I have a bad feeling i have a faulty sensor AND a water restriction.
Is there a place online that has a manual of beeps or interpretation of signals from outboards? I need one. If i have two problems its good to know that now.
I ordered two thermostats in stainless steel for not much more than brass. Pretty cool if you ask me.
 

Faztbullet

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Your motor don't have TPS unless its a EFI or its a later model 3.0L carb and it has a TPS on carbs. Post your model number.....
 
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