'83 Johnson 35 hp Runs fine but will not shut off when key turned off?

[Fed]

Re: '83 Johnson 35 hp Runs fine but will not shut off when key turned off?

I think you can change the little metal sockets & pins inside those red plugs, if so it would surely be easier than changing the whole plug.
Someone else might be able to confirm this, it's all in the OMC manual but I've never had to do it.

 

[gras]

Re: '83 Johnson 35 hp Runs fine but will not shut off when key turned off?

I think you can change the little metal sockets & pins inside those red plugs, if so it would surely be easier than changing the whole plug.
Someone else might be able to confirm this, it's all in the OMC manual but I've never had to do it.

That does sound easier, if those pins push out easy enough. Would you know if the connectiions are crimped or souldered? Plus, there are two different sizes, I do not even know where to get them. Great suggestion though, I will check around.

 

[gras]

Re: '83 Johnson 35 hp Runs fine but will not shut off when key turned off?

That does sound easier, if those pins push out easy enough. Would you know if the connectiions are crimped or souldered? Plus, there are two different sizes, I do not even know where to get them. Great suggestion though, I will check around.

Are we allowed to post other links here? I found a complete blowup of the harness to include the pins with part numbers:
http://www.boats.net/parts/search/BRP/JOHNSON/1996/J15REDS 1996/MOTOR CABLE/parts.html

 

[Fed]

Re: '83 Johnson 35 hp Runs fine but will not shut off when key turned off?

You can crimp them with the right crimping pliers P/N 322696 if not then you can solder them.
The manual shows removal & insertion tools P/N 322698, 322699 for pin & socket removal & P/N 322697 for insertion.

 

[gras]

Re: '83 Johnson 35 hp Runs fine but will not shut off when key turned off?

You can crimp them with the right crimping pliers P/N 322696 if not then you can solder them.
The manual shows removal & insertion tools P/N 322698, 322699 for pin & socket removal & P/N 322697 for insertion.

Thanks Fed.

 

[tallcar]

Re: '83 Johnson 35 hp Runs fine but will not shut off when key turned off?

Starting to get REALLY steamed at this motor.. replaced the power pack because to the best of my understanding I have checked every test that was suggested..

engine still will not shut off.


anyone got a stick of dynamite?

Please understand my 1914 Evinrude Rowboat motor does not have any issues shutting off. So why does this POC cause me such grief? Why the goofy extra wires running thru a power pack when it is not necessary to be able to shut the motor down? Why oh why did the engineers have to mess with a easy system to shut the engine off? Can ya tell I am a bit ticked? LOL

I am very angry right now, enough ranting on to a serious question


from my understanding only the black/yellow and the black have anything to do with shutting this engine down...is this correct?

I have removed the key switch from the console, and it is now by the engine, I check for continuity of the black wire from the key switch to the ground at the power pack. If this checks ok, then the only other wire to look at is the black/yellow...correct? I am within minutes of removing the "Big Red Plug" and chucking it in the drink.

Looking for more assistance

Thanks

Richard

 

[Daviet]

Re: '83 Johnson 35 hp Runs fine but will not shut off when key turned off?

To shut the engine down the black/yellow wire from the pack has to be grounded. Disconnect the black/yellow wire at the pack, with the engine running, use a jumper wire and ground the black/yellow wire FROM the power pack the a good engine ground, does the engine shut down?

 

[tallcar]

Re: '83 Johnson 35 hp Runs fine but will not shut off when key turned off?

At work but the black/yellow wire goes into and comes out of the pack, I would think disconnect before the pack, and ground that side of the pack? If I disconnect the plug after the pack, that kills it instantly, so you mean before the pack correct? I can check this tonight when I get home.

Thanks

 

[Daviet]

Re: '83 Johnson 35 hp Runs fine but will not shut off when key turned off?

Yes, disconnect and ground before the pack.

 

[SuperDave81]

Re: '83 Johnson 35 hp Runs fine but will not shut off when key turned off?

Could you splice the wire and add a switch to easily ground it? I"m having the same problem with my 85 120 hp motor. I have replace the ground from the key switch back to the motor b/c there was no continuity when I checked it and still didn't help.

 

[Fed]

Re: '83 Johnson 35 hp Runs fine but will not shut off when key turned off?

Tallcar you shouldn't need to disconnect anything, open up the circuit diagram you put up then take a look at the powerpack shown.

On the left hand side you see the black/yellow wire, that has to be shorted to the black ground wire shown at the top of the powerpack as on the drawing.

If you have tried that & it did work then you either have a faulty powerpack or the engine is running on without spark.

That's assuming that the diagram you posted is the correct one for your motor.
BTW, that would be exactly the same for my 90HP and I'd imagine pretty much for all OMCs with a single powerpack.

 

[SuperDave81]

Re: '83 Johnson 35 hp Runs fine but will not shut off when key turned off?

I found a solution. For my situation anyway. I have not replaced the power pack yet. While the motor was running I tried grounding out the black/yellow wire (did nothing) so i'm assuming that it's the power pack that is bad. I then decided for S#@ts and giggles that I would try cutting the ground from the power pack to the block. BINGO... LOL So i then ran a wire up to the console and switched the ground for the power pack. Works like a charm. Might try to wire it to the emergency kill switch so if anything were to happen could still kill it (not sure if that will work).

This solved my problem for now until I can get a power pack and check it out. Don't know if this is what you want to do, but it may work.

Thanks to everyone for all the great info.