78 imp prop doesnt spin with motor

78impaztec

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I changed the impelled pump in the lower unit yesterday n I was wonder can that little drive selector looks like a tiny input shaft can make the prop not spin is there something I should have done to it b4 mounting it back up
 

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Re: 78 imp prop doesnt spin with motor

I changed the impelled pump in the lower unit yesterday n I was wonder can that little drive selector looks like a tiny input shaft can make the prop not spin is there something I should have done to it b4 mounting it back up

Ayuh,... Welcome Aboard,.... What motor,..?? What drive,..?? We don't care what the boat is...

If it's an MC-1 drive, Yes, that's the shift shaft, 'n it needs to be held in Forward, along with everything else...
 

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Re: 78 imp prop doesnt spin with motor

Yea its MC -1 how do I know if its forward will the shaft lock if u try to spin it clock wise would that be forward
 
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Re: 78 imp prop doesnt spin with motor

You have to hold the lower half in forward the whole time by turning the splined shift shaft of the lower half CW and hold pressure on the prop CCW with your hand or a bungee cord.

Pressure on the prop the whole time until they are mated or it bumps out of forward gear

Align the shift shaft on the upper half straight ahead over the splined shaft of the lower half, and don't forget the stainless washer between the two.
 

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Re: 78 imp prop doesnt spin with motor

This should explain what can go wrong. Good luck.

There are generally only three things that will go wrong with the shifting of an Alpha I after a impeller installation: The shift slide is disconnected, the intermediate shift shaft is “off a spline”, or the washer between the intermediate and lower shift shafts is missing. If you only dropped the gearhousing, it is one of the latter two.

The first thing to do is figure out what is wrong. Did you take the entire outdrive off or just drop the lower? Does the control move freely back and forth WOT forward to WOT reverse, or does it jam when you pull it back toward reverse? Is it stuck in gear? Which gear is it stuck in (if the prop locks when you rotate it counterclockwise it is in forward, locks clockwise it is in reverse)? The answers to those questions will tell what is wrong.

If you removed the entire outdrive and it is stuck in gear and the shifter moves freely back and forth maybe a little binding near wot then either you are missing the intermediate shift shaft washer (see below) or your shift slide at the end of the shift cable has come disconnected from the upper shift shaft lever. Take a look underneath the fore part of the outdrive (trim it up a little to see) to make sure the intermediate ss and the upper ss are firmly locked together. If they are the problem is probably the shift slide. This is what it looks like: http://www.google.com/imgres?num=10...sp=16&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:15,i:156&tx=156&ty=111 There are two little arms on the shift slide that capture a small wheel on the underside of the upper shift shaft lever. When you shift to forward the slide moves back rotating the lever clockwise. If the wheel is not between the arms, the aft arm will push the lever, but when you shift to reverse and the slide moves forward and since the wheel is not between the arms there is nothing to pull it back (rotate CCW) and you stay in forward. Fix: Place control in forward, hold the gearhousing by CCW pressure with a bungee on the prop, Slide the outdrive back and reposition the wheel between the shift slide arms, bolt back together.

If you at some point split the outdrive outdrive and the shifter moves freely back and forth and it does not shift, or stays in one gear it is likely that you lost (or it is bent) the 1” stainless steel washer that goes under the intermediate shift shaft and allowed the top of the I shift shaft to drop down out of the coupler on the bottom of the upper shift shaft. To check take a look. The top of the intermediate ss should be solidly locked into the bottom of the upper ss.

If you did not remove the entire outdrive and the control handle jams when you pull it back and it is stuck in reverse, then the gearhousing was in reverse when you put it back together rather than forward and the intermediate shift shaft went onto the lower shift shaft “off a spline”.

Fix: drop the lower, rotate the lower ss (small splined shaft in front) all the way clockwise (forward gear), make sure the washer is in place, rotate the prop CCW until it locks and hold tension with a bungee to keep it locked in forward. Make sure the control is in forward and the bottom of the upper shift shaft is pointed straight and the top of the i ss is pointed straight ahead. If you need to turn the verticle driveshaft a little to get the splines to line up, turn the prop CCW only. Make sure the little quad ring is in place in the oil passage. Bolt it back together.
 

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Re: 78 imp prop doesnt spin with motor

It is stainless steel, .390 x 1.00 x .06 in case you have to make a trip to the hardware store. part# 12-29395. I usually "glue" mine in place with a gob of grease so it does not fall off during reassembly;).
 

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Re: 78 imp prop doesnt spin with motor

The copper sleeve that comes down its supposed to spin when moving forward to reverse right if so I dnt think mine is wat can I move manually to get in forward
 
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Re: 78 imp prop doesnt spin with motor

The only copper piece is the section of copper pipe goes from the water pump housing to the water pocket cover in the upper half. Has nothing to do with shifting.

If the drive is complete... look at the attached photo from Ziggy, there is shift shafts mated. That will turn as you shift the remote shifter, will be pointing straight ahead when in forward.
 

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Think I got it my cable to tell it forward. To reverse isn't working moved it by hand n it slid right on
 
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