64 Starcraft: A little progress & a couple ??'s

lakelover

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So I started tearing it apart & cleaning it up. Once I found the right size drill for the rivet removal, the heads just popped off with the help of a screwdriver. I took out the seats, floor, mouse nest & mice, and ants nest. The foam under the floor was soaked & dripping in the stern half and dry in front. My plan is to not replace it under the floor, but to put some closed cell under the bow, in the gunwales and maybe in the seat bases. After getting all that mess out, I scrubbed and cleaned for several hours, it smells a lot better now. Then I did the leak test.

I filled it with water up to the seem where the bottom and sides meet, and used a car jack to tilt the boat up and down front to back. I was afraid the trailer jack would buckle with the weight of the water.

I only found one actual rivet leaking on the bottom where it had hit something and there was a dent. Otherwise, there are a couple sections of the side seems where it leaks a little. I'm planning to tighten the rivets in those sections using the double hammer method, and figure out what to use to caulk the seem inside the boat. Not sure what to use for that yet. Overall, I was please with how little it leaked.

The worst problem area was in the bow where the center seems all come together and up to the bow eye. Even my 2003 Starcraft has small leaks in this area. I fixed that by applying epoxy putty up and down the seem and that has worked well, and will probably do the same thing here.

Before starting work:
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After cleaning up, the leak test:
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Now a couple questions...

I had planned to put in back to back lounge seats, but I think they will ride higher than I want to sit and they all seem to have 10" bases. I'm thinking of installing Wise low-back Designer Plus folding seats back to back so I can make lower bases. If I make plywood box bases, how do these seats attach? (Plan is something like this):
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Ideally, I'd like to have non-folding back to back seats with lower bases, but haven't been able to find any.

What should I use to seal the side/bottom seem?

Also, what do you think of the epoxy putty sealing plan for up under the bow?

This post got a lot longer than I planned....
 

Rickairmedic

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Re: 64 Starcraft: A little progress & a couple ??'s

Lakelover I have been shopping seats alot lately for my 2 projects . I am prety sure most of the new back to back Lounge type seats have plastic bases which should be pretty easy to cut down to whatever works best in your boat. I wont need to cut them down for my Larson but my 64 Crestliner will have to be cut down quite a bit.


Rick
 

lakelover

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Re: 64 Starcraft: A little progress & a couple ??'s

Lakelover I have been shopping seats alot lately for my 2 projects . I am prety sure most of the new back to back Lounge type seats have plastic bases which should be pretty easy to cut down to whatever works best in your boat. I wont need to cut them down for my Larson but my 64 Crestliner will have to be cut down quite a bit.


Rick

I'm not sure how these work, but I wondered if they could be cut down because of the operation of the footrest stored underneath?
 

APPALOOSA2

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Re: 64 Starcraft: A little progress & a couple ??'s

I would not cut them down. I bought a new pair of Wise Deluxe last year and the base which is made out of plastic is really cheap and you can feel the whole seat flex on these bases.

I am going to either make a new base out of wood and cover in vinyl or use my old bases off my original seats.

As for the bow use Gluvit, this stuff is the best and your hull can still flex and will not come off. I would Gluvit the whole bottom of rivets and seams waterline down.
 

windsors03cobra

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Re: 64 Starcraft: A little progress & a couple ??'s

Wise small craft seats use a 8" high base, good idea on reinforcing the cheap plastic base with some wood inside the base. $150 each.

Nice cleaning job, I wonder on the West Bend engine lights what do the green and red represent ?
 

APPALOOSA2

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Re: 64 Starcraft: A little progress & a couple ??'s

I was wondering the same thing about those lights. I wonder if they are for the bow light 2 bulb operation , when a bulb blows that light goes out on the dash to warn you ?
 

lakelover

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Re: 64 Starcraft: A little progress & a couple ??'s

Wise small craft seats use a 8" high base, good idea on reinforcing the cheap plastic base with some wood inside the base. $150 each.

Nice cleaning job, I wonder on the West Bend engine lights what do the green and red represent ?

The guy I bought it from told me that the green light is always on when the battery is charging as it should; the red comes on when there is a problem, or discharge only, as I understood him. My plan is to try to sell the motor & controls. I looked at a newer motor today.

What does the inside of these seat bases look like, anyone have a photo? I've never seen one before & it would help me decide on a plan. I wouldn't think reinforcing inside with plywood would be too hard provided it didn't interfere with the footrest support that I assume folds into there. I saw some on Amazon, I think it was, for $139 each, same thing at WalMart for $179.

I like the sound of the Gluvit idea.
 

eriklane

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Re: 64 Starcraft: A little progress & a couple ??'s

I have a boat just like that and wonder if it is possible to remove the front aluminum cover(ahead of the windshield) so I can have my boy fish from up there?
 
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