50horses forward

Grumman

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i have a 1988 50hp Force that is stuck in forward drive. i cannot engage neutural or revearse, there for makeing it real hard to start and use safely.
it runs ok though ,no strange noises, no big leaks. the shops around me don't
want to fix it . help!
 

roscoe

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Re: 50horses forward

Welcome to iboats.

Your motor should not start if the motor is not in neutral, so I suspect a problem with the neutral safety switch.

First, buy a Clymer Force repair manual, or a factory manual for your motor.

Then start by removing the lower unit.
Remove the bolts, disconnect the shift rod, drop the unit.

See if you can shift the unit with your hands.
Can you move the shift handle with the lower unit off?
Does the cable move sufficiently?

Now you will know if the problem is in the shifter, the cable, the lower unit, or the shift rod in the motor mid-section.

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Keep us updated on your progress.
 

steelespike

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Re: 50horses forward

Before getting carried away disconnect the shift cable and try shifting by hand.
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: 50horses forward

If you can start it in forward, then perhaps the linkage is mis-adjusted so that with the handle in neutral position, the lower unit is in forward gear. If it is that badly adjusted it is possible that there will not be enough throw to get it out of gear.

So, first remove the shrouds on the midleg to expose the linkage adjustment nut. If the threads on both shift rods are near the ends of their adjustment (more than say 1/4 to 3/8 showing) then it is quite likely that the shift is biased too far forward. Now, while a helper moves the control handle see if the shift rod moves at all. If it moves--even a little, it is probably free and you will need to adjust it. However, before you try to make any adjustments, try moving the lever on the side of the engine by hand as the assistant moves the control handle. This will pretty much tell you if the shift rod is stuck or not.

Moving the shift rod DOWN is forward gear. The adjuster is threaded right on one end and left on the other just like a turnbuckle so turning the hex one way will shorten the shift linkage and the other will lengthen it.


Because of its design and because of compliance in the system, If the lower shift rod is too tight, the shift linkage "gives" instead of moving the shift rod. If it happened to get stuck while in forward, you will not be able to take it out of gear

If it doesn't move, the lower shift rod is stuck--either in the seal which may have swelled, or in accumulated silt which tends to pack into the front of the lower unit like cement. If it is silt, simply clean it out. If it is a swelled seal--I pity you. On that engine, you need to disassemble the lower unit to replace it--a real pain
 

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Re: 50horses forward

thank you for the help everybody, I'm waiting on a repair manual before I dig into any thing as of yet. should be in this week.
 
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