4.3gl dieseling

steele3boyz

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Hi Everyone, so we found a replacement motor for our 1996 four winns. starts and runs great yet it has has twice now after running to stay running after turning the key off. could this be a key issue? or carb issue ? thanks for your help by the way when it does do this as you folks know it hydro locks... we have pulled plugs and cleaned out and run seafoam in engine
 

kenny nunez

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The idle speed might be too high. the idle rpm is probably on a sticker on the engine.
Is this engine carbureated or fuel injected? What about the timing?
 

ESGWheel

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You seem to be familiar with dieseling not only by the title but also your description of it running backwards and sucking in water. You know the sound: turn off the key it keeps running for a second or few but a little funky and then a sort of loud sigh when it kicks backwards and if you were looking > a puff of smoke out of the carb. If this is what you have then its not the key.

In the video about timing its interesting that is exactly this type of car (and older ones too) that were most susceptible to dieseling. There are several potential causes, some mentioned above. Here is a Wiki article outlining them all (link). Back in the day with muscle cars if one was dieseling, we always attributed it to “carbon buildup" which could only be cleared with high-speed runs of the car. I think it was more an excuse for us to take joy rides 😊. But in some cases, it did work. Most typically was the idle set too high.

You recently had your spark plugs out > how did they look? Dark and filthy? Or white and crusty? Here is a link about plug evaluation. What you are trying to determine is are they (1) rich or (2) good or (3) lean. If you don’t remember, pull a couple out.

While I do not have experience with a boat engine dieseling and sucking back in water, I can only imagine that continued operation without fixing it could lead to needing to replace the motor due to hydrolock and a busted engine. Thus, for now, suggest put the boat back on the trailer if not already to allow troubleshooting and fixing while minimizing risking the engine.

In summary:
  • If you have the engine running at any point report the RPM at idle as well as idle RPM on sticker if has it
  • Report on ign timing.
  • Report on plug condition.
  • And post the engine serial no. and or the sticker that indicate what flavor of engine you have.
And if any questions about tools needed (RPM meter, Timing Light, etc.), post questions.

Also, this is more then likely an easy fix, so stick with it and you will be back in the water soon 😊
 

Lou C

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A 4.3 with a clean & well tuned carb can easily idle at 600 rpm abs at that speed should not diesel. I’ve owned this boat with the 4.3 4bbl for over 20 years and it’s never dieseled
 

Bt Doctur

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a high idle speed, lean carb condition,incorrect timing, hot running motor temp all can contribute to this condition
 

steele3boyz

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thank you everyone.. its on trailer and i hope to have time to look at this weekend. does anyone see value in using a colder plug?
 

Lou C

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IIRC
Mercruiser had put out a service bulletin about dieseling on these engines; with suggestions on how to reduce it. Maybe someone here can find it….
 
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