$3000 cost, per trip out to the lake....STUPID!

vegasphotoman

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ok here's a stupid human trick....my sister and her genius husband...."THE BOT" as we call him....bought a NEW boat in 2002 for $43,000 they paid cash. and him being a geius paid top dollar to the salesman...it was either a SeaRay or a Bayliner...bow front....21 footer, nothing special mind you..... anyways, so they store it indoors at a place near the lake for $150 a month....no its not airconditioned or anything, just a roll up door and roof with walls...lots of dust.

ok..they used it in 2002, 2003 and 2004, then my sister got pregnant....they stopped using the boat, so 5 more years of storage at $150 a month...for a total of 8 years (they still own it...it is probably needing tires, impeller, oil and fluid changeout, deep cleaning, trailer bearings or maint etc etc etc, new boat cover on top of the other costs, ), thats 96 months x $150, about $14,000 in storage fees, plus the original $43k cost = $56,000 spent on boating for the 3 years they used it, they would go out 5-7 times per season, = approx 18 trips to the lake in the boat for $56k, thats close to $3000 PER USAGE or TIME OUT TO THE LAKE ....... WHAT A WASTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

we used to go out with them, but there were all these rules.....and it was at like 5am to go out there, (traffic on a weekend and the water is smoother in the am was the BOTS excuse), most of the time consisted of running the boat across the lake to a secluded beach with no people other than us, then another couple hours of towing THE BOT around on a kneeboard...uuuhg!

and we were pulling out of the water by noon or 1pm and heading back to the city..beat the crowds or something like that.....mind you its 115 degrees out at the lake at 1pm....we had to wipe his boat down with vinegar and water etc etc....instead of riding in the boat up the ramp to the wipe down area, we would have to hoof it....

at lake mead the ramps can be mega long because of lake water level drops etc....so it was a 300 yard walk up a hill, in 115 degree heat with sun blistering your back....needless to say we stopped going out with them after a season or 2...oh and there was no fishing stuff allowed on his boat...and one time my wife cut her foot in the boat ....on something sharp...anyways...he was all worried about getting her foot out of the boat so she wouldnt bleed on it..:eek:.not worried about her foot at all. (like a cheap beach towel wouldnt have staved off the massive flow of blood (small amount of drippage BTW)

also.... we would get sunburnt every time out because he didnt like to have the Bimini top up, and we spent alot of teh time putting around on the water...(reflective sunlight) so it was always a sunburn trip...theres alot of other reasons we stopped going out there with them....it just wasnt fun anymore.....is the bottom line....so DONT BE A JOYKILL is the moral eh!

I think I would take a used 30ft eliminator for 25k or a deckboat etc etc...over buying new....either way....have a great time on the lake....and be flexible people! :p
 

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Re: $3000 cost, per trip out to the lake....STUPID!

haha thats a good story. I just smile when i see those guys launching "brand new" boats, and i cant help but wonder how often can they afford to do so.....mines not special or anything but its paid for and thats a great feeling :D
 

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Re: $3000 cost, per trip out to the lake....STUPID!

those ultra-careful boaters aren't much fun to be around. They end up spending a lot of time by themselves. They may prefer it that way, and so does everyone else.
 

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Re: $3000 cost, per trip out to the lake....STUPID!

Hahaha the bot! I LOVE IT! Wonder what would happen if you spilled a beer. There's the right way to do boating...and there's the wrong way. The BOT is doing it all wrong!

Does this guy and your sis have money to burn or what? You need to give them some pointers...at least to save them a little bit of money.

ROFL! I want to see a picture of this guy...is it more of a R2D2 or 3CPO?
 

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Re: $3000 cost, per trip out to the lake....STUPID!

Theres nothing wrong with pride in ownership, but this is a bit extreme. I went out a few times with a buddy that had a scrub brush and bio soap and would clean and scrub the anchor for about 15 minutes before pulling it back onto the boat. Also we werent allowed to wear our flip flops on the boat. We had to take them off and put them in a plastic bag that was stored under the seat.
 

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Re: $3000 cost, per trip out to the lake....STUPID!

Theres nothing wrong with pride in ownership, but this is a bit extreme. I went out a few times with a buddy that had a scrub brush and bio soap and would clean and scrub the anchor for about 15 minutes before pulling it back onto the boat. Also we werent allowed to wear our flip flops on the boat. We had to take them off and put them in a plastic bag that was stored under the seat.

yeah thats a bit EXTREME...but on the other hand, I prefer people dont walk from thier car, through the dirt parking lot, down the dirty ramp, onto the dusty dock, and step directly on my captains chair (supple white vinyl) and leave a big black flip flop mark... I believe the fix would be a small cheap carpet rug where you want people to board...wipe yer shoes! Im going to do that this weekend...as we had some pals out with us last weekend, that had never been on a boat, needless to say they did what I explained above....lol the docks in vegas are HOT HOT burmn your feet so shoes and flipflops are OK....just watch where ya step with em...
 

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Re: $3000 cost, per trip out to the lake....STUPID!

now that his daughter is now 5, they are still scared to take her out to the lake or in a boat, or let us take her out to the lake with us and our kids (she may have too much fun mebbe)

whatever! we gave up years ago on him....I still test the waters once in a while, and YUP he's still a jack^& hehehhe
 

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Re: $3000 cost, per trip out to the lake....STUPID!

Keep typing. : popcorn:
More pics.
 

lonesouth

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Re: $3000 cost, per trip out to the lake....STUPID!

MY wife had an uncle like that. This guy got a nintendo when they first came out and wouldn't let his niece(my wife) play, but instead "allowed" her the privelege of watching him play. He also bought a pair of jetskis, but wouldn't let my FIL drive one, instead it was either him or the aunt and FIL could ride. Took 8 years to get the divorce settled and he's still a d***he...
 

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Re: $3000 cost, per trip out to the lake....STUPID!

PRICELESS... I have a buddy who makes you take off your shoes but thats because he hates cleaning shoe marks like me.

I am anal about beer being spilt at least wipe it up so my carpet doesn't forever smell like beer please other then that. Its open game LOL>.... This guy sounds like a troll.
 

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Re: $3000 cost, per trip out to the lake....STUPID!

"The Bot" sounds like the perfect nicname! I agree on saving money, buying something used but in nice cond. Bought my Nova II last year, nearly mint cond, not molested in any way, for $10K with decent original trailer. I don't understand buying a new boat, having a big monthly payment, plus insurance, etc., and using it a few times a year. I go out about 15 times/yr, and still think $10k was a big investment for that little usage. But, if I keep her for 10yrs, its only about $67/trip. Not too bad.

OP, love the Executive! I had a 23' daycruiser jet prior to the Nova II. Still miss her!!
 

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Re: $3000 cost, per trip out to the lake....STUPID!

For a lot of people with boats, who don't use them nearly as much as they thought they would, they are better off not doing the math.

It also makes the "boat club" make more sense.
 

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Re: $3000 cost, per trip out to the lake....STUPID!

I agree on the pride in ownership thing. But I'd say he's overboard. We have a few simple, common sense rules that keep the boat nice but wow not like that. As a matter of fact, I just started using the carpet in the boat this season since since it is 10 times easier on my completely flat feet. I figure why am I saving the carpet to be nice for the next owner. Of course I am the only one to have spilled cola on it so far. Good thing spills wash away easily. I can't believe people buy any vehicles new either but am glad someone does so we can get their nearly new, much cheaper used stuff.
 

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Re: $3000 cost, per trip out to the lake....STUPID!

I usually say there are two rules on my boat, No sand and No drowning listed in priority order . . . :eek:

I prefer people dont walk from thier car, through the dirt parking lot, down the dirty ramp, onto the dusty dock, and step directly on my captains chair (supple white vinyl) and leave a big black flip flop mark...
I just have everybody dip their feet and their flip flops. I prefer they put their flip flops away somewhere, but a flippin' baggie? Jeez . . . The black marks do suck, and I don't want the little pebbles stuck in the bottom to grind into the Gelcoat. Seems like common sense to me. Would you walk on your car's paint with shoes on? Carpet is absolutely fine, white vinyl, not so much . . .

Scrubbing an anchor? Wow. Walk up the ramp? What and arse!
 

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Re: $3000 cost, per trip out to the lake....STUPID!

So unless I'm missing something. Well-to-do person A invites person B out on their new boat. Person B is both jealous and nosy, and criticizes everything possible about person A, not only their boat but their lifestyle. As far as I see it, that's the cliff notes version.

I don't like sand in my boat either, I don't allow fishing gear. (I don't enjoy fishing and there isn't enough room on board for fishing gear anyway). My boat is stored inside, I care about the condition of it. I enjoy water sports, and everyone is welcome to grab on to the rope behind the boat. Finally, its a boat, in particular MY boat. How much it cost to operate is a matter for the person paying the bills, and NOBODY ELSE's BUSINESS.

just playing devils advocate...
 

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Re: $3000 cost, per trip out to the lake....STUPID!

Inviting an ungrateful, petty, and apparently jealous brother in law onto your very nice boat just so he can make fun of you and your name on the internet, and doing it more than once.... STUPID!

When you can afford a nice boat, you can make whatever rules you want, invite whoever you want, go out whenever you want and you certainly won't have to justify to anyone what it cost you.

Don't get me wrong, based on your one sided and obviously shaded opinion, the guy is a little more obsessive compulsive than I would be, but in case you haven't been around nice boats, it's actually not that unusual among owners of nice boats, especially new owners. These things tend to relax after the people get used to the responsibily of owning, running and maintaining an expensive and complicated piece of equipment that they aren't used to. I have a lot more respect for people going overboard in that direction rather than ignoring cleanliness and maintenance. In fact, this is EXACTLY the type of owner I would like to buy a used boat from!
 

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Re: $3000 cost, per trip out to the lake....STUPID!

Dboat....you are right I went a bit overboard....removed the pic and posting of other rant about him and his obsessivness

I understand his being the way he is, it doesnt mean it's not over the top etc...especially since after the 3rd season he basically abandoned the boat in a dusty storage unit....I mostly posted this to show how expensive a new boat can be if you dont use and and if you have to store it offsite from your home. the making fun of part kinda whittled its way in, yes its petty but pretty hilarious at the same time...either way REMOVED his MANTIS MAN pic

wiping the boat down is fine, doing it in 115 degree direct sunlight at high noon in august in Vegas, NOT COOL.... leaving for the lake at 5am to NOT go fishing, uncool, I sleep in till 9 everyday since I work past midnight many days....either way who wants to go out and "party" at 5am not me! especially just to beat the "traffic" on a saturday...yeah right! and as for smooth water, great! but then again its a 21ft boat, it can handle a wave or 2.... either way thats why we stopped going on thier boat...NO FUN! JOYKILL...it the little thinigs that I cant convey that would make anyone cringe...thats what THE BOT is about....

we gave him gas money, always helped with cleaning and such...we were always very courteous...so after we discovered going out with him in particular was un-enjoyable, we stopped going out on thier boat and got our own...

I was never jealous of him, his payments, or his boat, THE BOT, is a royal jackananny, if you met him ONCE, you would agree...believe me, Ive been around him for 17 years...so making fun of my idiot BIL is fun for me....I know it isnt right but its what I did and do ...I can live with that.

all that being said, I just spent 2 hours cleaning our boat out after last weekends outing, cheeto crumbs, cheese puff pile in the cuddy, KFC greasy crispy crumbs all over the boat, wrappers from kids drink box straws etc....I am actually going the way of THE BOT, if you dont own it / clean it / maintain it after the lake...no eating in the boat! (atleast not crumbly KFC, subs are ok) go out on the front deck or on the beach...NEW RULE! and the kids grabbing a huge bag of chips and going on a chipfest ini the cuddy (like 4 kids) BAD IDEA! out on the beach or on the top deck...that rinses easy....
 

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Re: $3000 cost, per trip out to the lake....STUPID!

Cleaning bait guts off the side and scales or potato chips out of the carpet isn't the most fun I've had but it's all part of boating/fishing. It's worth the effort to have a great day enjoying the lake and our boat. Our only two rules are excersize reasonable care, and enjoy the boat. I invited you, so I'll clean up; just like a party at home. ( We got a great deal on the boat, so we figure about $100 a trip.)
 

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Re: $3000 cost, per trip out to the lake....STUPID!

Dboat....you are right I went a bit overboard....removed the pic and posting of other rant about him and his obsessivness

I understand his being the way he is, it doesnt mean it's not over the top etc...especially since after the 3rd season he basically abandoned the boat in a dusty storage unit........

I see my post was kind of bi+chy. I do agree he's over the top. I had an acquaintance who was super compulsive at first w/ his boat. he'd never owned one and was really feeling his way through it, erring on the "safe" side big time. I grew up w/ boats and it was excruciating the first few times I joined him on his. I kept my mouth shut though because it was his boat and it was just the way he was. I actually felt it kind of unpleasant and tended to beg off when invited because if it. He gradually got mellower/more reasonable and just turned into the type of guy you'd want to buy a used boat from because you know he went overboard keeping it up.

As for quitting using the boat when they had kids... I NEVER understand that. Sure, I understant that kids will cause you to adjust priorities big time. That's important. On the other hand, when my first kid was about 2-3 weeks old (when mom felt up to it), we went on a 60 mile river trip into the boonies to fish for the day and she slept the whole time (vibration, fresh air). We never let that sort of thing prevent outdoor activities. Sounds like your bro-in-law is just not a boater. You should make him an offer on his lightly used, well kept rig!
 

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Re: $3000 cost, per trip out to the lake....STUPID!

NEW boat in 2002 for $43,000
For a 21 ft bow front boat ??. :confused: Plus .. .:eek: . :eek:
Tell the Bot to sell his & he can have mine for $18.000. Look at the money he would save !! :D
 
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