2003 yamaha 150 v6-2stroke... rpm problem

divers2deep

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:confused::confused::confused:2003 Yamaha 150txrb / 2 stroke / v6 / oil injected. 250 hours on engine, the engine is on 03 polar 2100 BB.

The boat ran fine back in November, when i took it out 1 week ago the engine ran perfect for about 5 minutes then it felt like the engine started to restrict my rpm's and would not allow it to go past 2500 rpm. I went home put additive in the fuel, and also used sea foam, no results. the engine was just serviced 10/08, they cleaned all 3 carbs and put new gaskets in, they also installed a water /fuel separator, the tank was drained as well. My understanding is carbs get fouled up from not using the engine, what doesn't make sense is that the engine runs great for about 5 minutes... No audible alarms are sounding, as far as visual alarms, can someone describe what im looking for?

do you think this problem could be relayed to a thermostat sensor?

Amateur questions... Once the fuel line is primed, does the primer bulb stay hard, once the engine is running?




I understand some of these questions are elementary, but you have to learn sometime, please help?

this is a very similar problem that this gentleman had in this post:

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=268935
 

erniefish

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Re: 2003 yamaha 150 v6-2stroke... rpm problem

here are a few suggestions,try using a remote tank(clogged fuel pick up)were fuel pumps serviced or replaced,? are you alarms in working order? , as far as electrical, i will defer to the other great guy's on this place, i would not assume any thing about those carbs,try removing the air cleaner and while running spray a mist of fuel(plastic spray bottle) in each carb,if you notice a change ,you have narrowed it down to carbs, good luck
 

divers2deep

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Re: 2003 yamaha 150 v6-2stroke... rpm problem

the engine has been ran on a new fuel tank, no resolution.. the alarms test properly, do you guys know anything about thermostat sensor, i think there is no alarm linked to the part, therefore if it is nonoperational, there is no way to know but testing it, any idea how to test this part ? Also if, the carbs are fouled, how is it possible for them to work properly for that first few minutes?
 

rodbolt

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Re: 2003 yamaha 150 v6-2stroke... rpm problem

what we are gonna do here is start with the basics.
if this motor suddenly showed up at my shop I would start with a compression and spark test.
first order of testing is to insure mechanical integrity and can the ign system generate enough secondary coil voltage to spark the plugs.
by your model number you have a 2003 150 with trim and its a 25" shaft.
this motor uses a "smart" system .
2 pulsers fire 4 cylinders and the other two are "made" by the crank position sensor.
lose a pulser and code 13 is set and ECU goes into bypass and you lose the CPS signal.
means now only 2 cylinders spark.
however this system is dead reliable and rarely fails.
do a forum search on a homemade spark tester.
most our issues revolve around fuel and todays mandated stuff made it way worse.
from here at my shop I would do a fuel system vacum test with my fuel system in a box, if that passed I would open up the carbs and replace the fuel pumps.
however you most likly dont have this.
your next step is going to be turn the key on,insure the remote oil tank is at least 1/2 full, cut the strap on the engine oil tank water drain and using needle nose pliers carefully push the tube off.
sometimes lightly heating the tube with a hair dryer softens it and aids removal.
with the key still on drain the oil into a suitable container until either the tank is empty or the alarm sounds.
if the tank empties and the alarm does NOT sound we have an issue.
if the alarm sounds replace the tube and count how many seconds it takes to refill the engine tank and the transfer pump stops.
anymore than 180 seconds and we have an issue.
what I am looking for is the alarm sounded,3 bars flashing on your tach,the engine oil tank refills and quits in less than 180 seconds.
this will tell you the alarm system and oil control circuits are working properly.
if not we fix that first.
ok, I will assume all your tests passed.
now we know the ign system is capeable, the engine mechanically can make power,the oil control and transfer can work as designed and the alarm works.
now the next test is tricky, what we want is to tee in a vacum guage at the lower lift pump intake.
now we are going to run the motor on the lake at the speed it fails, if vacume exceeds 4" HG shut it down and idle back, DO NOT keep running.
now we would know we cannot supply the pumps with fuel.
remember most tank draw tubes have a screen, fuel lines can collapse and the engine cowl connector has an oring that can swell and shut off fuel.


IF you have access to a KNOWN clean good 6 gallon tank you can try the above test hooking the fuel line from the remote tank directly to the engine mounted fuel filter bypassing the cowl connector.
if the engine turns up fix the delivery system if not its carb/fuel pump time.
dont do one without the other.

another quick test to see if a needle is stck is to remove either the carb bowl drains or the carb main jets,the former may be a 10mm hex with a slot the latter is a 12mm hex.
dont lose the metal gaskets usually thay can be reused.

any questions please post but no PM concerning technical stuff :)

if I was smart as DonS I would figgue out how to add that to my tag line.
 
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