2001 Mercruiser 5.7 TBI Won't Keep Running

300sflyer

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Where item #3 is located in the diagram, is where the fuel pressure sensor is located. During the scans, it did not show any malfunctions there.

Can you please explain what you mean by "ring/ohm out"?
 

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If your fuel line connects at posted item 3, then look on the other side (item 1) and see if that is the plug

To ring out or ohm out is to set the digital meter on ohm scale. Disconnect the connectors from sensor and ECM. Then connect the meter probe to each end of the contacts and see if you get zero ohms. Also check the connections to ground to make sure they are not shortly out.
 

300sflyer

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#3 is the fuel pressure sensor, and #4 is where the fuel line connects. I don't have the necessary fittings to connect my gauge to either of those.

With regards to the MAP and TPS wiring, everything seems to check out with the ohm meter.

All of the other battery and ground cables are in decent shape, and are tight. There are no starting issues on either engine.

Despite everyone's help here, I have just about run out of patience trying to find the problem. I may just let someone else deal with it. :(
 

300sflyer

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I went to swap the TPS sensors from one engine to the other, and one of the attaching torx bolt heads striped on the way out....

I'm starting to hate these engines.
 

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I went to swap the TPS sensors from one engine to the other, and one of the attaching torx bolt heads striped on the way out....

I'm starting to hate these engines.
You can see the live data from your TPS sensors on the software. All you need to do is open the throttle and see if the value changes.
 

achris

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You can see the live data from your TPS sensors on the software. All you need to do is open the throttle and see if the value changes.
And you don't even need the engine running to do this. Just with the key ON is enough.

Chris....
 

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You need to get that fuel pressures checked, orileys or auto zone rents the fuel pressures tools and fittings. Been there done that. One gas line/tank for both engines?
This engine is very old, take a neon/led light and illuminate your injectors at low idle and up...
 

300sflyer

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Thanks guys. I'm going to take a few days off from working on it for my own sanity... LOL!
 

300sflyer

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I connected the scanner back up, and the TPS appear to be working just fine, through the full throttle range, on both engines.

I don't think its a fuel pressure issue either, as both engines will run indefinately at about 1200 RPM with the TPS sensors disconnected. If the pressure was low, wouldn't the engines stall out from lack of fuel?

I'm thinking maybe there is an issue with both ECMs.
 

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I'm thinking maybe there is an issue with both ECMs.
Doubtful but maybe be messed up with all the disconnect/reconnect of sensors. Need someone that knows what to look for

You can send ECM out to be tested
OBD Diagnostics or Boats Unlimited
 

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I am using Diacom scanner software.

Test one engine at a time by disconnecting the battery, then disconnecting one ECM- in a multi-engine setup, one is set as Master and the other is Slave (don't kill me for calling it this, that's the real name for it). Check in Diacom to see which is which, so you can run the Master first. It could be that the harness has a problem.

While you're doing this, inspect the ECM's pins after unplugging the harnesses- if you see any green deposits, it means that water bypassed the seal(s). If any of the pins are missing, the ECM will need to be replaced. This sometimes happens when the ECM(s) are located in a place where water can drip from above, onto the plugs.

I'll assume the Diacom has a way to see the MAP voltage and an indication of vacuum, in KPa (Kilo-Pascals, absolute). What does this show when the engine runs vs Key On/Engine Off? You should see a difference- at idle, the vacuum should be higher than at higher RPM and the voltage/vacuum have an inverse relationship- you should have high vacuum/low Voltage, low vacuum/high voltage.

Check the wiring diagram- if an engine has overheated, wires can melt and short. I was trained for Indmar injected engines, but this came from the same assembly line, so the harness and sensor locations should be the same. I would need to look in a manual but IIRC, the ECT and MAP sensors share their ground wire location.
 
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