1994 johnson 9.9 issues

[harry mo]

Thanks guys for all your help so I did disconnect the battery the boat has a female and male plug connect at the stern....from the push button switch there are 2 red wires as far as I can tell since they are in the tiller handle,one goes to starter other goes to a threaded stud near the rectifier with the postive battery wire and another red wire that goes in behind the rectifier which I assume is going into the back of the rectifier.i had my multimeter on the setting that looks like WiFi with like 4 arched lines one probe on starter and other probe touching positive battery and the other 2 wires then i pushed the button and no beeping.I touched the 2 probes together before I did this test and it beeped so I guess the tester is working....now does this definitely mean it's the switch or could it be a wire some where bad...with the switch being in the tiller what do I do should I unhook the wire from the starter and the other wire connected with the battery wire and pull them out from the end with the push button,I also can't even find one to buy online that looks similar.

thanks again fellas

Sorry jbuote just noticed where you mentioned could be broken wire also

Is there a way I can do a test where I'm bypassing the switch to see if is a broken wire for example if I touch the probes like we mentioned and I don't push the button shouldn't it beep and that tell me I have a good connection from point a to point b to rule out a broken wire.i couldn't get it to beep though that way either

 

[jbuote]

I believe, (someone correct me if I'm wrong please), that those 2 red wires going into tiller are for start switch.

If by following one of those wires from tiller to the very first connection point you find, use meter probe there.. then follow other red from tiller to first connection point. Use other probe there. push button. Should beep if good, no beep switch is bad..

You could disconnect each wire and test one wire, through switch, to other wire if you really wanted to, but leaving them connected where they are should be fine...

To sanity check, put one probe on end of red battery cable where it connects to rectifier, and other probe on red battery cable where it would bolt to battery post.. Should beep.. just a wire there.

If it doesn't beep just on battery cable, I'd question my meter.. lol..

Broken wire, blown fuse etc.. we're just examples of what might cause no beep. It all depends on what's between the 2 probes...

If you definitely have no beep when on the 2 wires to starter switch, and you know the only thing between your 2 probes is the switch, I'd remove the switch and see if I could get probes on the switch itself to test it. But I'd expect to have to replace it..

I hope others would add to this or correct this if I'm incorrect about anything...

For whatever it might be worth..

 

[Tony T.]

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Just replaced the start button switch assy on my 1994 Johnson 9,9 a few days ago. Switch harness was $91.00 and change plus I replaced start button assy, total was little under $120.00 bucks best I remember. My swicth was sticking and would not release, actually a buddy on mine took it apart and fixed it but when we was putting it back together one of the plastic locking pins broke, so it was junk then had to order a new one.

Tony

 

[harry mo]

Thanks for the input,your outboard is set up different then mine I can't seem to send pictures but here is a link to what mine looks like it's with the push button going into tiller. http://www.leeroysramblings.com/OMC_9.9_1993.htm you may have to type it in and the picture is about a third of the way down....i found one for sale but it is 163.00 for the dam thing,alot to spend and it not be the problem.i see push button switches for sale that have a place to connect 2 wires on the back side that are cheap to see if that's the problem but I don't know if the internals of the switch are set up the same way to wire it

 

[harry mo]

Yes jbuote yesterday I took a piece of 14 gauge wire and touch the ends with the probes and got a beep so I figured tester was good...here is an update as of 5 minutes ago I disconnected the 2 wires the one from starter and the other one that's connected with the postive and touched them with the probes and pushed the button and the result was still no beep so I can assume it's the starter button or one of the wires that goes into the tiller handle is broken (that will be a fun job to remove those).I guess I didn't figure that would have been the problem because it was working until I let off the button and didn't quit while I was still pressing it.....163.00 is alot of money for a little darn switch

 

[oldboat1]

edit.

 

[harry mo]

http://boatinfo.no/lib/evinrude/manuals/1990-2001johnsonevinrude.html#/280 bottom right

 

[oldboat1]

Find a momentary switch or button and bypass the current button -- or just jump the button. It the starter operates, it's the button.

 

[Tony T.]

Thanks for the input,your outboard is set up different then mine I can't seem to send pictures but here is a link to what mine looks like it's with the push button going into tiller. http://www.leeroysramblings.com/OMC_9.9_1993.htm you may have to type it in and the picture is about a third of the way down....i found one for sale but it is 163.00 for the dam thing,alot to spend and it not be the problem.i see push button switches for sale that have a place to connect 2 wires on the back side that are cheap to see if that's the problem but I don't know if the internals of the switch are set up the same way to wire it

Mine is the same as the link you provided, it's a 1994 year model. When you decide on where you are going to buy (outboard parts) type in your model number and it will give you the year of production if you didn't already know. The start button assy and the wiring harness are in the same place on mine tucked up under the back of the tiller handle. They both are sold separately the wire harness is like $91.00 and the start button assy was I believe under $20 bucks not for sure on that but I bought $147.00 dollars worth of outboard parts total and the start button harness and start button assy was all I purchased for the 1994 Johnson 9.9. The rest of the parts was for my Johnson 15 hp.

This was about two weeks ago when I ordered them.

Edit: the switch harness was $91.96.
switch button assy was $22.58 I looked up my order.

Tony

 

[harry mo]

Hey Tony you are correct after seeing a larger photo it is the same set up and that outboard is in wxellent looking condition by the way.....where did you order the parts from I have not seen to many places that have them available to purchase and for now I think I'm going to buy a cheap momentary switch as old boat suggested for now to see if that solves the problem.....thank you all for everything up until now i couldnt have diagnosed rhis with out you guys and I will check back with any updates

 

[harry mo]

Well I believe the switch is the culprit because I bout a 5 dollar one at auto store and connected wires and hit the button and bingo fired right off....seeing how this outboard is on a sail boat and I have to reach pretty far to start it I might just get a decent waterproof switch like the temporary one and mount it up by the cockpit so it's easier to get to and it will probably be cheaper

To each and everyone of you guys thanks so much i coyldnt have done it without yas and btw my compression is at 125 psi for both cylinders, seeing how this is what I was doing when it all went to heck I figured I will share the results and thanks again