Fisherg3
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Hey everyone! Ok, I’ve done my thread search and I only see portions of my issue. Please help?! Any info would be truly appreciated!!!
1992 70hp Johnson VRO ( VRO function was removed by previous owner)
Model: J7OTLESB
I’m in California and some may know we’ve had more rain than I’ve ever experienced in my life! But during a storm break I went fishin and the water pump went out. Turned out to have a nut inside the impeller housing and it burned the hole bigger and no longer round. I’ll post some pics for shock value. Don’t know how long the nut was there for but…see pics.
Issue 1. Still learning by trial and error and most things I’m doing for the first time but I’ve done ok. I took the lower unit off and changed impeller started up and have more water shooting out than it’s ever had since I’ve owned this motor (2 years). When I changed the water pump I Didn’t know anything about the gear shift rod needing to be unmoved from it’s rested position etc. I did the job and when I started it, it starts in gear. Neutral is now just a short pull back on the control stick. No reverse, forward is now just past the normal neutral position. At the motor the shaft is being held properly and it looks to function correctly when motor isn’t on. I’ve taken the lower unit off and tried every position for the rod and where it’s held. Same. I can’t for the life of me get it back to the normal F
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Issue 2. Messed with the two wheel adjusters on the cable connections at the motor for shift and throttle. Now it idles way to high and trying to shift it slams it into gear. Only tried that twice to get it back on the trailer.
Issue 3. Last week during one of the many storms I had been working on the lower unit and had engaged the trim motor to bring it up to take the lower off. I think the battery posts were wet from the rain. I swear I saw the battery post spark. Trim no longer moves down, consistently. Only sometimes. Same with the up. But if the Trim up doesn’t work then both don’t work. When I try to start the motor now, still have to start it in gear because Neutral is in gear but need it to be in neautral due to the neautral switch needing to be pushed in the control box to start it. And when I turn the key it sounds like the battery is dead. Real slow turn, then faster, then start. Aaand sometimes it won’t turn at all and I get clicks at the two relays and the starter solenoid.
I changed the two relays.. the trim down didn’t work the first few tries. Then it worked several times. Tried to start and that slow turn and then no turn, no trim at all. So I changed the starter solenoid, and same exact result. Not the first few tries but then i
Trim up and down work. Motor starts fine. Just not at the correct control stick position. Turn it off. Try again and back to only ‘trim up’ working. No motor turn. Checked the small 20amp inline fuse…. It’s good. Only thing left I knew to change out was the power pack. Same results exactly. So now I’ve got three days and $300.00 worth of unnecessary electrical replacement parts. So before I go purchasing anything else —any ideas? I had my batteries checked and all three came back good.
To make matters worse, I had to match the weather to prove when it rains it pours! I had to bring the motor down and due to trim down not working has to use the manual bleed screw on the side. I loosened that and the motor finally began to drop but trim oil shot out and the screw came out too far. The o ring on the screw broke and this split metal ring with two holes on each end of the opening of the circle came out and now the screw will go in but trim oil leaks out and so now there’s that. There’s only one shop that works on motors this old and they’re so backed up I won’t be on my boat till fall and I’m on my boat three days week by now.
Frustrated, lack of knowhow, no live help near by that I know of, and the striper are gonna be here any day and I’m gonna have a mental breakdown.
Thanks for any help!
1992 70hp Johnson VRO ( VRO function was removed by previous owner)
Model: J7OTLESB
I’m in California and some may know we’ve had more rain than I’ve ever experienced in my life! But during a storm break I went fishin and the water pump went out. Turned out to have a nut inside the impeller housing and it burned the hole bigger and no longer round. I’ll post some pics for shock value. Don’t know how long the nut was there for but…see pics.
Issue 1. Still learning by trial and error and most things I’m doing for the first time but I’ve done ok. I took the lower unit off and changed impeller started up and have more water shooting out than it’s ever had since I’ve owned this motor (2 years). When I changed the water pump I Didn’t know anything about the gear shift rod needing to be unmoved from it’s rested position etc. I did the job and when I started it, it starts in gear. Neutral is now just a short pull back on the control stick. No reverse, forward is now just past the normal neutral position. At the motor the shaft is being held properly and it looks to function correctly when motor isn’t on. I’ve taken the lower unit off and tried every position for the rod and where it’s held. Same. I can’t for the life of me get it back to the normal F
N R . Help? Issue 2. Messed with the two wheel adjusters on the cable connections at the motor for shift and throttle. Now it idles way to high and trying to shift it slams it into gear. Only tried that twice to get it back on the trailer.
Issue 3. Last week during one of the many storms I had been working on the lower unit and had engaged the trim motor to bring it up to take the lower off. I think the battery posts were wet from the rain. I swear I saw the battery post spark. Trim no longer moves down, consistently. Only sometimes. Same with the up. But if the Trim up doesn’t work then both don’t work. When I try to start the motor now, still have to start it in gear because Neutral is in gear but need it to be in neautral due to the neautral switch needing to be pushed in the control box to start it. And when I turn the key it sounds like the battery is dead. Real slow turn, then faster, then start. Aaand sometimes it won’t turn at all and I get clicks at the two relays and the starter solenoid.
I changed the two relays.. the trim down didn’t work the first few tries. Then it worked several times. Tried to start and that slow turn and then no turn, no trim at all. So I changed the starter solenoid, and same exact result. Not the first few tries but then i
Trim up and down work. Motor starts fine. Just not at the correct control stick position. Turn it off. Try again and back to only ‘trim up’ working. No motor turn. Checked the small 20amp inline fuse…. It’s good. Only thing left I knew to change out was the power pack. Same results exactly. So now I’ve got three days and $300.00 worth of unnecessary electrical replacement parts. So before I go purchasing anything else —any ideas? I had my batteries checked and all three came back good.
To make matters worse, I had to match the weather to prove when it rains it pours! I had to bring the motor down and due to trim down not working has to use the manual bleed screw on the side. I loosened that and the motor finally began to drop but trim oil shot out and the screw came out too far. The o ring on the screw broke and this split metal ring with two holes on each end of the opening of the circle came out and now the screw will go in but trim oil leaks out and so now there’s that. There’s only one shop that works on motors this old and they’re so backed up I won’t be on my boat till fall and I’m on my boat three days week by now.
Frustrated, lack of knowhow, no live help near by that I know of, and the striper are gonna be here any day and I’m gonna have a mental breakdown.
Thanks for any help!
