1990 Bayliner 19ft is it worth the money?

[sptjet90Reflexx]

1990 Bayliner 19ft with 2.3l engine (i think its the ford block [omc cobra?])

Looks like a pretty nice boat with a few cosmetic issues, seats are solid but look horrible so ill just get some seat covers till i can afford seats. hes asking 1300.00 but i know thats rediculus. says the motor is fully rebuilt and its rdy for the water.

---Last boat we owned was a 1983 Galaxy 19ft bowrider and i loved it all through childhood so im looking to get boat that will last another 5 or 6 years.---

I guess what im asking is what is a good price to offer/

- Anyone have this type of boat and tell me pros and cons..

- Can that little 4cyl pull any skiers or wakeboarders? what about a 2 person raft?

Pictures :

 

[Howard Sterndrive]

Re: 1990 Bayliner 19ft is it worth the money?

keep looking.
Look for a boat with a Chevrolet based engine and a Mercruiser alpha one outdrive.

If you have to spend $3000 or $4000 to get Chev/Merc in a boat like that, you will still be many dollars ahead in the long run. That 2.3/Cobra has a few NLA parts that will cost you thousands to replace.

I bought my 92 Capri 185 with alpha one and a 3.0L for $2995 and that was from a marina with a full one season warranty. And my boat is way nicer than the one you picture.
Here's a replacement exhaust manifold for that 2.3 to give you an idea of what you can get into trying to repair it:
http://www.seawaymarine.com/pages/CustomCatalog/Product/38660

plus the 2.3 is a noisy high revving engine that arguably never made enough torque for any boat over 16 feet.

 

[sptjet90Reflexx]

Re: 1990 Bayliner 19ft is it worth the money?

well thats rediculus.. to bad there just arnt any used boats in my price range in the area.. i have a 3 month old and cant afford much.. looking to spend no more then 2000.00

i live in northern virginia

 

[Don S]

Re: 1990 Bayliner 19ft is it worth the money?

It's winter, keep looking, ut don't get stuck into something that you are going to spend all your time and money fixing and not boating.

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: 1990 Bayliner 19ft is it worth the money?

Here's a SeaRay in Fredricksburg asking $2K Just listed 2 hours ago. Something to look at. http://fredericksburg.craigslist.org/boa/2741854621.html

 

[86 century]

Re: 1990 Bayliner 19ft is it worth the money?

Like is said above look for somthing in the chevy/merc combo.
OMC no longer does sterndrives.

The deals are out there if you look. The best can be had before chistmass after that people start to think of tax time and prices tend to creap back up.

 

[CaptainKickback]

Re: 1990 Bayliner 19ft is it worth the money?

Where do you do your boating? Like was mentioned, its winter. If you can't use the boat until Spring, take your time looking. If you are lucky enough to be in Florida...different story.

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: 1990 Bayliner 19ft is it worth the money?

Where do you do your boating? Like was mentioned, its winter. If you can't use the boat until Spring, take your time looking. If you are lucky enough to be in Florida...different story.

OP said he was in N. Virginia. Not much boating for a few months.

 

[sptjet90Reflexx]

Re: 1990 Bayliner 19ft is it worth the money?

yea i live in N. Virginia, we own a lake house in toccoa, GA.. We have 2 jetskis and a bayliner reflexx but i doubt ill ever get it to run right... so i want a boat with a real engine something i know about like v6/v8 automotive motors..

Here's a SeaRay in Fredricksburg asking $2K Just listed 2 hours ago. Something to look at. http://fredericksburg.craigslist.org...741854621.html

whats so good about searays? and ive never used a boat with a outboard before, clearly they would be easier to work on but are they any good?

 

[Howard Sterndrive]

Re: 1990 Bayliner 19ft is it worth the money?

whats so good about searays? and ive never used a boat with a outboard before, clearly they would be easier to work on but are they any good?

I don't think Searays were being touted in general there- just an example of a better deal than your original post mainly because of the 2.3 engine.
Once a boat is >10 years old, it's almost all about condition, not much about brand.

but as a rule with i/o's, units most people avoid the most are the 2.3 OMC and the 224 cu in 4 cylinder Ford/Mercruiser hybrids as well as anything OMC powered and anything with a big block Ford.
There are exceptions, of course.

Bayliner, Sunbird, Searay, Crownline.......any of them can be destroyed in 5 years with no maintenance, upkeep, or protection from the elements.
Any of them can be great boats for 30+ years if looked after.

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: 1990 Bayliner 19ft is it worth the money?

yea i live in N. Virginia, we own a lake house in toccoa, GA.. We have 2 jetskis and a bayliner reflexx but i doubt ill ever get it to run right... so i want a boat with a real engine something i know about like v6/v8 automotive motors..


whats so good about searays? and ive never used a boat with a outboard before, clearly they would be easier to work on but are they any good?

I really can't speak about SeaRays, but it like any boat if you take care of it, it will take care of you.
Outboard vs. I/Os. I've had both. O/Bs don't have as many parts that are subject to freeze damage, are easier to work on and much easier to re-power if the need arises. The CL add I posted ^^^ is in your budget and appears to have a newer Merc, so parts shouldn't a big problem. In your price range you could end up with a I/O that has little parts support or big bucks for parts. Just my opinion. I'm sure others will chime in with their druthers.

 

[Philster]

Re: 1990 Bayliner 19ft is it worth the money?

yea i live in N. Virginia, we own a lake house in toccoa, GA.. We have 2 jetskis and a bayliner reflexx but i doubt ill ever get it to run right... so i want a boat with a real engine something i know about like v6/v8 automotive motors..


whats so good about searays? and ive never used a boat with a outboard before, clearly they would be easier to work on but are they any good?

A marinized auto engine (I/O) of that age/price might require a total rebuild, plus full exhaust, to be up to snuff. Then you have the drive unit itself. It could cost three times the price of the boat to square away.

I'd be looking for a decent, well-known 2-stroke outboard on a nicely cared for boat if the budget is such an issue. At the budget specified, I would label it lunacy to expect a very old I/O setup to be something that doesn't smash the budget.

Get the best O/B, preferably a 2-stroker, that you can.

 

[wagnerz]

Re: 1990 Bayliner 19ft is it worth the money?

Just be sure to look out for rot.

 

[sptjet90Reflexx]

Re: 1990 Bayliner 19ft is it worth the money?

thanks for all your replys guys i really appreciate it!

 

[cyclops2]

Re: 1990 Bayliner 19ft is it worth the money?

I have never figured out why people say a 200 hp outboard is cheaper than a 200 hp Mercruiser. Try buying each new.

OK include a transmission for the Merc 5.0 L V 8. They people I boat with claim the OB is sometimes even more. That was with the 2 strokes.

 

[Philster]

Re: 1990 Bayliner 19ft is it worth the money?

Who said that, cyclops2?

An older 2-stroke outboard's power unit is simpler and less risky than an old marinized car engine. The OP is best informed when he considers this option.

I have never figured out why people say a 200 hp outboard is cheaper than a 200 hp Mercruiser. Try buying each new..

This is called a straw man argument.

We are not comparing new i/o vs. new o/b. Additionally, I was not discussing transmissions/outdrives or lower units. In the engine vs. engine battle, a simple 2-stroke power unit is more often less risky than an old marinized car engine.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1990 Bayliner 19ft is it worth the money?

I cannot possibly agree more with Phil.

I admit to being heavily biased toward outboards. However, on a new or well cared for used boat, both outboards or I/O's are great options and can be equally reliable and serviceable. Once you get into larger (150+) horsepower, I/O's are much more economical to acquire and run. Where I feel the real difference comes in is for the real low budget boat (as I was/am). If you've got two $1000k boats sitting in a field, one I/O and one 2 stroke outboard, you've got a far better chance of getting safely out on the water with nothing more than some gas and some spark plugs with the outboard. Catching up on neglected maintenance on an I/O can cost (a none wrench turner) many hundreds of dollars and there are just simply many more potential failures.

In my opinion, if you're looking to get on the water cheaply with the least chance for financial disaster, an aluminum hull (lessens the rot issue) with an outboard is the way to go. Although not aluminum, that SeaRay posted above would definitely be on my short list to check out. Good luck with your search.

 

[oldjeep]

Re: 1990 Bayliner 19ft is it worth the money?

I couldn't disagree more about outboards > I/O. The car based engines are much easier to work on and the parts and whole assembly are less expensive. Simple sleeve replacement and piston swap on a 2006 50HP elpto merc cost almost $700 in parts and machine shop time with me doing all the assembly. The motor was built worse than any lawnmower I've ever seen. Same situation in an I/O would have been simpler to deal with and hundreds less.

 

[halfmoa]

Re: 1990 Bayliner 19ft is it worth the money?

I'd be looking for a decent, well-known 2-stroke outboard on a nicely cared for boat if the budget is such an issue. At the budget specified, I would label it lunacy to expect a very old I/O setup to be something that doesn't smash the budget.

Get the best O/B, preferably a 2-stroker, that you can.

Agreed. The learning curve isn't too steep for 2 cycle engines if you've got a grasp of automotive motors to begin with. And it's much easier to work on an OB engine that you can walk around and remove entirely versus hanging upside down in a pit trying to work on an IO.

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: 1990 Bayliner 19ft is it worth the money?

I couldn't disagree more about outboards > I/O. The car based engines are much easier to work on and the parts and whole assembly are less expensive. Simple sleeve replacement and piston swap on a 2006 50HP elpto merc cost almost $700 in parts and machine shop time with me doing all the assembly. The motor was built worse than any lawnmower I've ever seen. Same situation in an I/O would have been simpler to deal with and hundreds less.

True. But how often do O/Bs need internal work? How many I/O posts are about water leaking through the transom, cracked blocks, rusted/busted exhaust, gimble bearings, alignment, milky oil, bellows, oil changing, etc.?

I'm not saying which one is better because both have good points, but going back to the OP on a tight budget - an older 2 stroke O/B is a better choice in my opinion.