1989 85hp force outboard no start issues

Jtom7

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Ok so my findings are it is definitely the choke adjustment. The butterfly is not closing all the way with key. The choke cylinder is up to high not letting it pull the butterfly all the way closed but if I my the choke cylinder down it will not work it tries but just clicks and don't pull down the rod. I loosened it up choked it manually and boom started up first try. My question is there any other adjustments on this thing to change that.
isn't there a rod on the side that ties them all together? its been a while since Ive had a force outboard
 

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So what’s it doing or not doing -the pics actually show it running. Hard to guess from my couch so elaborate a bit??
 

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Be patient-several good experts here it’s the weekend and everyone’s out on the water.
 

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So what’s it doing or not doing -the pics actually show it running. Hard to guess from my couch so elaborate a bit??
for the record I added the pics to see if it would help Barrylaw (the commenter) out at all. They aren't his pics...
 

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Thanks for the pics. Looks a little different to ours, single carburetor.

The below is similar. If you look to the right of the picture, you can see the levers where they are.
thanks
 

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This looks like a carburator for an OMC (Johnson/Evinrude) and it is a manual choke.
 

Jtom7

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Thanks for the pics. Looks a little different to ours, single carburetor.

The below is similar. If you look to the right of the picture, you can see the levers where they are.
thanks
yeah that carb looks different and you said single carb? This thread is related to a 1989 85 HP force engine which has 3 cylinders and thus 3 carbs, I'm not sure what you have there so unfortunately I've got no input at this time. Perhaps you need to input more detail or start a new thread pertaining to what you have going on...
 

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This looks like a carburator for an OMC (Johnson/Evinrude) and it is a manual choke.
Yes correct 👍🏼 What we need is a picture (example) of where the choke connects (so the chambers open and close).

Any ideas?
 

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Yes correct 👍🏼 What we need is a picture (example) of where the choke connects (so the chambers open and close).

Any ideas?
This is where we are currently. We can’t get it to connect as you can see.

Thanks
 

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Jtom7

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Hi, Evinrude 1983 20HP
I have circled in the photo you posted where it might go but its hard to tell without more angles to see the manual choke lever. Its hard to tell if it lines up or not but it appears the hole on the lever should go on the bar circled in red too. That should actuate the choke butterfly but thats if the lever is in the correct position. I do not have this motor so Im doing the best I can with what limited pics you've shared. I will try to look for more info later but that's an older one and you may want to start a thread inside the Evinrude of that era. What is the screw and washer thats laying in the bottom? Could there be a part missing that links the butterfly shaft with the choke lever?
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I have circled in the photo you posted where it might go but its hard to tell without more angles to see the manual choke lever. Its hard to tell if it lines up or not but it appears the hole on the lever should go on the bar circled in red too. That should actuate the choke butterfly but thats if the lever is in the correct position. I do not have this motor so Im doing the best I can with what limited pics you've shared. I will try to look for more info later but that's an older one and you may want to start a thread inside the Evinrude of that era. What is the screw and washer thats laying in the bottom? Could there be a part missing that links the butterfly shaft with the choke lever?
View attachment 345705
Thanks for your help. My son says this is in off position and there is a screw missing from the front plate. Yes I can start a new thread.
 

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Thanks for your help. My son says this is in off position and there is a screw missing from the front plate. Yes I can start a new thread.
I am wondering if the rod that has the curved end is in the wrong hole and you have the throttle in the wrong position too (all the way open to full throttle) was this all taken apart or just the choke like you asked about??? Then maybe the plastic plate will hit the choke lever when it's in the right positionYou_Doodle_2021-07-18T20_11_33Z.JPG
 

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I am wondering if the rod that has the curved end is in the wrong hole and you have the throttle in the wrong position too (all the way open to full throttle) was this all taken apart or just the choke like you asked about??? I think the rod is supposed to be on top not to the bottom like you have itView attachment 345715
 

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It was all taken apart and when we test, the chamber inside (not the front chamber) the carburetor moves when the throttle is moved. Should both flaps move or just the inside one? However my question really relates to how the choke connects (as you have kindly marked in the picture). We will change the rod like you suggest.
 
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