1984 Starcraft 16ft Glutton for Punishment [Splashed July 2019]

[SHSU]

Thanks Red and EZ. Tried to upload photos but seem to be having some issues. Still mulling it over, but wanted to ask what ya'll thought and if anyone has done it before. Still have a lot of work before I get there and that means plenty of design changes. LOL

 

[Watermann]

The reworking of the overly large SW on these boats is a common topic in the dedicated Starcraft forum with 2 members working on it right now. Here's one thread to check out but he's be awol for a little while. Candutch has a great exanple in his thread.
http://forums.iboats.com/forum/owner...-try-a-restore

 

[Candutch]

Oh I'm still around! Summer was too busy camping and fishing and fall was hunting, then it got too darn cold to do anything in the garage.
Welcome to the Starmada SHSU! If you have any questions about a SW delete ask away buy I warn you I am no expert. I still have to do some drilling through my transom and bolting until I'm satisfied mine will be structurally sound.I do tend to overkill my work though.
Looking forward to seeing your progress.
I'll post updates on mine in the next few weeks.

 

[SHSU]

As promised, here are some pics of the OVERLY LARGE SW. Not very good, but all I can do for now. Maybe this weekend we will be able to get it out of the garage a little bit for better pics. Have to do most of our stuff in the garage as HOA kind of frowns on this kind of work.

 

[SHSU]

Admiral excited about about ripping into the boat


Pics of the front bench seating that the admiral removed. There was the original (i believe as it had vinyl trim) 1/2 layer, another 3/4 inch layer (both rotten through) and then a layer of 1 1/2 decking composite. So instead of ripping out the bad stuff just keep adding layers.... I don't know much but I even know that you shouldn't do that....

 

[ezmobee]

Wow we've seen some hinky crap done on here before but that decking is choice

 

[Watermann]

Ok, you're SW is not that big in your model compared to the early 70s or my V5 model.

 

[redneck joe]

Yeah looks about the same as mine where the motor hangs but yours goes all the way up where mine is about 6" down so you should be fine.



http://i1374.photobucket.com/albums/ag428/joemckeehan1/20150711_120405_zps45d7b4e5.jpg

 

[SHSU]

Thanks guys, so I found where Tomynoks did something along the ideas of what I am thinking for SW redesign back in 2011 on iboats




I really like this final pic as I was thinking of doing pretty much the exact same thing. This would allow me to close up much of the splash well and be able to have all that storage or build in some live wells + storage. We use a lot of live bait here and it would be nice... He mentions that it does hinder his tilt so I would have to think about that if I decide to go that route. Maybe keep the length the same and depth but shorten the overall width..... But we shall see, just something else to mull over.... Plus would make me more comfortable with getting in and out of water, but then again how much will I be getting in and out....

 

[Watermann]

Looks like he designed it after a familiar SW I've seen before, my 79 V5 SS. :lol:

 

[SHSU]

Looks like he designed it after a familiar SW I've seen before, my 79 V5 SS. :lol:

I like that!!!! Did you fab that or is that factory? Going to have to go and read that thread for ideas

 

[redneck joe]

if you are planning a kicker, keep wide or plan to drill thru your new work....


also plan for steering shaft side to side - he may have I didn't read the thread.

 

[Watermann]

I like that!!!! Did you fab that or is that factory? Going to have to go and read that thread for ideas

Rock stock splashwell on my model SS.

 

[SHSU]

Thanks RJ, currently no plans to have a kicker, mostly fishing jetties. As for the side to side, never thought about that, good point.

WM, If possible can I get the dimensions of your SW? Since it is stock I hope I can modify it to work for mine. If I Do do it, I will use 1/2 with Fiberglass and aluminum to build out. Just more ideas to keep dreaming about......

 

[SHSU]

Got some work done on the boat (See Pics below).

Following Sprintst suggestions made some templates of the front decking before it finding its way into a dumpster


From there started digging into the boat and got the following done:




All the decking pulled out and rails having all the accessories removed:


Cleaned up and Transom removed:


You will notice the lines drawn by someone else who did a redo on this boat. Found all of the rivets they redid......:facepalm: I can't believe anyone would do this on any boat...

(Yes that is silicone out of open end blind rivets)

So much for not having to redo a bunch of rivets. Plus also found corrosion on a bunch which are having the heads fall off. You can see the rivets that the heads haven't fallen off of yet but you can start to see the separation:



Wouldn't be a complete gutting without a pic of the transom. You can see the port side is completely rotten, but was able to get it out with little effort.



And finally the last surprise i found while gutting.....



So that is the progress I have completed. Overall I am happy with the progress. Could have been worse but also could have been a lot better.

 

[BWR1953]

Nice progress! You've definitely found some challenges but you're moving forward. :thumb:

 

[Dabbler_E]

Sorry about the transom knee and bad rivets. Looks like a lot of work ahead!

 

[Watermann]

We've just about all been there with all the issues you posted on but what matters is that you knew to look for these things and found them. We see guys blaze through here all the time with a resto they've already done and just post pics with narrative on what they did. Most if not all miss many of the issues these boats have that they never took the time to research. Well done! :thumb:

 

[redneck joe]

How many rivets you think?

 

[SHSU]

Thanks all. Never like jumping into anything without knowing what I am going to get my self into. Truthfully, between the research and the work I don't know what part more I like about the projects I do. As always, any time schedule gets blown out the window on day one... :target: So slowing down and taking my time. Going to do it right the first time and never worry about it again (Anyone believe that :lol.

RJ,
All of the support ribs on the bottom of the hull and about 1/2 of the port/starboard ..... At this point I am leaning heavily towards redoing the entire hull. I did a rough calculation of ~1300 rivets..... Give or take a few hundred for a complete redo. Otherwise ~500-600 for all the blind rivets that i now think are open end/suspect.... If i redo the entire hull with the admiral, I know it would be done right and I would be able to say that I did it. But then again, I could just say screw it..... Still mulling it over. Going to continue my research today and if I decide to do it, going to order a rivet removal tool from ATS and see how it works. Hopefully I can just go down and drill them out quick and then come back with 5200 and the admiral to buck new ones back in. Its a step back but am leaning toward it will be worth it in the end.