1984 Sea Ray Seville Cuddy Restoration

jlclar09

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I am new to Iboats and new to restoring boats. 2 years ago I bought my first boat, a 1984 Sea Ray Seville for $900.
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It came with a shorelander roller trailer with brakes but no actuator. It had a mercruiser 3.0 140 and M/R outdrive. When I went to look at it, it was in rough shape but the engine ran and everything seemed to work fine. Being very inexperienced with boats I bought it thinking with a little work I would have a nice boat. I got the boat home and went to take it out for the first time. Little did I know that this would be the start of a long project. I got it on the water and was having a great time when I went to the engine to check it out and thats when I discovered that it had a cracked block. It had cracked down the side of the block just under the intake/exhaust manifold. it was pumping water into the boat at a very alarming rate. So I found a block on craigslist for $100. It turned out to be a great deal, I just swapped all of the components and head over to the new block. I did not have an engine hoist so I used the tractor with the loader to swap the engines.
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It only took me 3 days to redo the engine. I decided to redo the bed cushions next. They were completely worn out.
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I had never used a sewing machine before but I thought that if my grandmother could use one I sure as hell could learn to use one. So I wend to Wally World and bought a sewing machine for $40 and enough outdoor fabric to redo them. I meticulously cut all the stitching that held the fabric pieces and used them as a template. In 2 days I had new bedding for the cabin. This is pretty much where I left off. For 2 years I used the boat with no complaints. I was happy with my investment in entertainment. :) Everything was fine until 2 weeks ago when I had the boat out on Harrington Lake in KY. The belt broke on me which put a premature end to a great weekend... there is not an auto parts store for like 40 miles that are open on the weekend. I got the boat home and replaced the belt with relative ease. It was when I stepped on the gas tank cover and it collapse under my feet when I discovered the real story about the boat... lots of water and wood rot. So I pulled the gas tank out and started to explore. The stringers resembled a channel filled with topsoil... I could have planted something in them.
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So I cut an exploratory hole in the floor and found lots of water.
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So I decided to do the biggest surgery on any thing I have ever done, I have since ripped out the entire floor on the drivers side and I am going to start removing the passenger side. So far I have found a little good news, the rot only went as far as the the bulkhead in front of the cuddycabin. So my plan is to replace the stringers from the cuddy back to the engine where I replaced the motor mount stringers when I rebuild the engine 2 years ago and use a second board fiberglassed to the old stringer and the new stringer as a splice. I plan on used pressure treated pine from Home Depot. I found out today I can get boards as long as 20ft if I need from my local Home Depot. Is this a good idea? I am trying to get the boat back to drivable in 24 days for the WEBN fireworks. I know that is a short amount of time to do it but I don't need to have carpet or seats by then just a new floor and stringers. My friends will just have to use lawn chairs for the fire works!! I will try to document this restore as I go along.
 

jlclar09

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Re: 1984 Sea Ray Seville Cuddy Restoration

I do have one major question... where can I buy fiberglass and resin, I am reading that fiberglass from autozone is waxed. Why is it waxed? What does that wax do that makes it not suitable? Should I use on type of fiber glass, mat or cloth, for the stringers and which should I use for the floor after I get ready to put that on?

Thanks for any help, I hope to be glassing by Sunday if the hot weather here in NKY goes away... :cool:

--John
 

tinkeringwackyone

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Re: 1984 Sea Ray Seville Cuddy Restoration

first off, welcome to Iboats, the best site for boat rebuilders on the web. I just redid an 87 Sea Ray seville. There is an ongoing debate of polyester resin or epoxy. I did mine in epoxy but would go with polyester, (finish wise nearly anything will stick to it.) fiberglass, go to uscomposites.com and look at their site, 1708 biax seems to be the glass of choice. I went lighter but needed more layers. I would stick with the 1708, buy the already made strips for tabbing, I cut mine and it was a pain.

Do some research. check out friscojarretts, he has a wonderful thread and videos that make it look easy. There are others here that are a great help as well.

Time is a big thing that gets a guy down, don't get overwhelmed as it is easy to do. Set small goals, and soon enough it will come together.
i did mine in two years of on again/ off again work. But it can be done quicker. Any questions are good question
Good luck and keep us posted.

sail on...tink
 

jlclar09

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Re: 1984 Sea Ray Seville Cuddy Restoration

I have been looking at the polyester fiberglass on uscomposites and I am getting ready to order some glass. Can anyone give me an estimate on how much glass I should order to reglass the new stringers in? also when I go to cover the floor with glass for waterproofing, should I use the same 1708 or can I use a less expensive type of glass? Is pressure treated pine used for house decking a good or bad choice for stringers and will the treatment cause problems with glass? If the pressure treated wood is OK, what is the best method of prepping the wood prior to installation? Sorry for all the questions, right now the only internet access I have is either at work which they monitor or on my phone( dumb***** hit a telephone pole and took out the internet at home).

P.S. Just out of curiosity... what about replacing the stringers with boxed structural aluminum? Has this been done or is it a bad idea?
 

tinkeringwackyone

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Re: 1984 Sea Ray Seville Cuddy Restoration

Don't think that aluminum would work as you don't have a good way of attaching it to the hull. A good exterior plywood seems to work well for most of us. the exterior glue helps keep it from delaminating. As long as you seal it well before you install it, it will last a long time. I sealed mine w ith 3 coats of resin before they were installed.

sail on.....tink
 

brian 1371

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Re: 1984 Sea Ray Seville Cuddy Restoration

How is the project coming? I just bought an 84 Seville and have the same problem, it looks a little worse than your pictures but I think the port side is fine so I am looking at only having half the work...I hope. Any advice or pictures of what I have in store?

Thanks
Brian
 

Brenn

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Re: 1984 Sea Ray Seville Cuddy Restoration

yeah i wonder if he ever finished this project
 
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