1984 200hp black max problems

wesberry

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My motor runs good for about a hundred yards then will die its hard starting and when i get it started and running again i can run at 1100 rpms any faster and it bogs out and dies like its not getting any fuel I am replacing the fuel line today and cleaning out the screen did a spark test and last week didnt have spark on the number 1 cylinder changed coil and now I dont have spark on the number 4 cylinder going to replace coil there too but the thing that has me stumped is had fishfinder on and a warning started flashing high voltage on the screen and I dont know if things are linked or if I am replacing things and not getting the problem solved thank you for the help
 

dakk1

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Re: 1984 200hp black max problems

Hey glordel,<br /><br />I have the 1985 150 HP Black Max. Been having similiar problems as you, and others. Someone posted this link and it might help.<br /><br /> http://outboardparts.com/troubleshooting/troubleshooting2.htm <br /><br />As a general statement, if it's not mechanical or fuel related it's ignition, probably switchboxes. Seems to be a common problem on this vintage Merc's. <br />As for the high voltage, you could put a voltmeter on your battery with the engine running and see what your getting. <br />A manual would be a great help and worth the investment.<br />I initially thought my problem was fuel related and rebuilt the carbs, the fuel pump, replaced the fuel lines, ran it from a remote tank etc., problem still remained. Now I'm in the process of going through the ignition system and testing the stator,trigger,coils,spark advance, rectifier,switch box bias and so on. Waiting on a tachometer I bought off E-bay so I can get to the lake and test under load. My best guess right now is either a bad stator or switchboxes. I'm trying not to just throw parts at it. LOL.<br />Good Luck and keep posting.
 
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Re: 1984 200hp black max problems

High Voltage could be a rectifier Problem..You will want to correct this problem before you put in any more Electrical Parts..A Shop Manual would help here..Its a small Circuit, Yellow wires from the stator connect to the Rectifier,this changes the A/C voltage from the stator to a Managable DC Voltage..The output of the Rectifier is connected to the Battery side of the Starter Solenoid, Which is how it Charges the Battery..Loose Connections can also makeit Over Charge..Good Luck
 

j_martin

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Re: 1984 200hp black max problems

A bad rectifier will not cause overvoltage, period.

That vintage v6 would have a 16 amp system, which had a shunt type regulator that sometimes worked, sometimes smoked, and is not useful enough to bother replacing. In fact if it's still there, discard it before it smokes and starts an engine fire. Without regulation, the system will try to put out about 90 volts at WOT, but will be limited to about 16 amperes by the mechanical design of the stator and flywheel.

Assuming you use some power for trim, the oil alert, instruments, etc, a good battery will hold down the output of a 16 amp system to specifications. The caveat is that the battery needs to be maintained, especially the water level, because it will use some. Battery cables need to be good, clean, and tight.

Overvoltage indicates that the battery or battery cables need maintenance.

Now I'll cut to the chase.
You need to discern if the problem is ignition or fuel. Systematic troubleshooting is the best, and easiest way to avoid buying expensive parts you don't need.

If it's fuel, there are ways to discern if it's delivery or carburetion, then what component is the trouble. One thing that often happens these days is the alcohol in the fuel causes the inside of the fuel lines to disintegrate. The resulting debris plugs up fuel filters, pumps, and carbs. It is worth while to check into it, and also to try to run only non-alcohol fuel.

If it's electrical, it's a system, with a lot of parts. Going through the tests with a maintenance manual and a DVA peak reading voltmeter should take you immediately to the failing part. It could be anything from a faulty tilt or kill switch to switchboxes to a stator to coils to a trigger to all of the above.

One thing you need to know. Unless it totally takes out the stator, the battery charging system will not affect the ignition system. They are completely separate.

hope it helps
John
 
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