1978 Midland transom repair and info

wildgse

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does anyone have any info about midland boat works from rhode Island, cant find much info. Picked up a 1978 18 center counsel made by midland i'm in the proscess of a complete restoration. ive replaced stringers before but never a transom i removed the inner glass and rotten wood i have the new piece cut and fit. The question is how to adhere the new wood to the outer skin of the transom before i glass. Ive heard epoxy but not sure what to use or where to get it. any help would be great thanks.
 

Woodonglass

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Re: 1978 Midland transom repair and info

Welcome to iBoats!
I would recommend using Thickened Epoxy to adhere your transom to your outer skin. The standard mixture is epoxy thickened with cabosil to a "Ketchup" or "Mayonaise" consistency or thereabouts. Cabosil makes for the strongest glue. On fresh wood it is a good idea to coat both surfaces with unthickened epoxy and let it sit for 20 min, then apply some thickened epoxy to the wood that will be mating with the outer skin and then clamp it to the skin with even pressure. Lots of different methods for clamping. Use your imagination. www.USComposites.com is a good source for your epoxy and cobosil.

Some people have use PL Adhesive to Glue their transoms as well. This is a heavy duty Waterproof Construction adhesive you can buy at Lowe's or HD. IT is commonly used to adhere stringers to the hull as it does retain some elasticity when it cures.

Your choice!!!

I'm just sayin...:D
 

rebuilt

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Yer gonna here it again. clean, virgin glass to adhere to. grind it till ya get it.
Epoxy sticks better, but flexes less.. poly doesn't adhere as well but flexes more.Surgically clean (or thereabouts) outer skin, (from the inside lookin out) ya know what I mean. So.... prefab ur transom. Both layers. Ur choice of resin. But.. would use epoxy, not poly to adhere the assembled unit to the existing outer glass. Good luck

I used PL "400" construction adhesive on my stringers and have found that tho the elasticity is greater than that of polyresin, the rigididity is nowhere near the same. Think about it. The force of the waves are transmitted 2 ur hull. What moves the motion to the stringers?? What purpose do ur stringers serve? 2 transfer stress througought ur hull. Flexible PL400 or a near flexible "construction adhesive"? Or a stout, rigid, compound we know as polyester resin with glass... Hence////////// lay up ur stringers in a bed of glass putty, like every good rebuilding book suggests.

Geez.... its so easy 2 parrot. BTDT. So... when ur boat is in ur garage, (if ur lucky enough 2 have 1) and ur burnt up with glass itch... just what does mayonaise or ketchup feel like??? Uh... another damned trip to the local parts house cuz Lowes don't carry polyester resin anymore... And ya better have a decent supply of chip brushes.... Can ya say Walmart?.... Oh Yeah... US Composites rock. Rolled glass. Fresh kicker. AKA catalyst. Cool tools. Lots of chipped glass, cabosill, and other stuff. Believe whatcha want. work out the rest
 

Woodonglass

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Re: 1978 Midland transom repair and info

Rebuilt,

I think you need to do some research on the PROPER method of installing stringers in a fiberglass hull. The PROs strongly recommend that you do NOT adhere your stringers directly to the hull using epoxy thus creating HARD SPOTS that could cause undue stress points in the hull and cause cracking.

http://marinesurvey.com/surveyguide/HullFailP2.htm

I think you will find they DO recommend that you install your stringers with a flexible agent to allow for the flex in the fiberglass hull.

I'm just sayin...:D
 

newellchunker

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Re: 1978 Midland transom repair and info

There is an awful lot of rebuild info at these two sites:

www.classicseacraft.com and

www.classicmako.com


I've posted a thread on my 23ft SeaCraft Sceptre on there and I am learning alot from those guys.....not trying to take away anything from the guys on here...so don't get me wrong there. Good Luck


BTW: I've gotten all my materials from the above mentioned company....US Composites and have been very pleased with the prices and products....as well as service!

If I can help please ask....as I'm a newby to all this rebuild stuuf myself!
 
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