1976 OMC 302 no spark!!!

Cfinifrock

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Yes my ballast looks just like that. But I already cut them off the ballast,twisted them together,and connected all 4 with a crimp connecter.
 

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A coil works under a simple principle, power comes in thru the + side and when points open the entire coil is charged. When the points close, they collapse the secondary winding and allows a pulse of high energy to exit the tower.

The Petronix is powered by the feed from the + side along with the coil. The other connection is between the distributor body which is ground, and the - side of the coil. When the magnet passes in front of the pickup, it grounds the - side to the distributor body.
 

Cfinifrock

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We'll, still no spark. I'm baffled. I hope I can get it running before it freezes outside. I need to winterize it by then.
 

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And your positive you have 12v at the hot coil and ignitor ? Have you confirmed they are both hot when cranking too ?

Good ground on base plate , etc

I wonder if the aftermarket dizzy was wired differently ?
 

Cfinifrock

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What do you mean ground on the plate? Theres no groung wire from or to the plate. Its just the red and black from the ignitor. What's a dizzy? I have full 12 volts at the coil positive side and the center wire going to the cap with key on. In fact everything shows juice that should except the plugs. I got the flamethrower 2 in the mail today, but I'm not optimistic that it will make any difference. I dont think thats my problem. I even ran the red wire directly to the grey wires, instead of the coil , from the ignitor. At this point, this is beyond me. If I cant get it started before winter, I may as well give it a viking funeral.
 

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So, the distributor used to have just a single wire to the negative on the old coil. Now, the only negative wire is from the ignitor to the coil. I assume this is grounding the distributor, as there is no way to ground the ignitor plate to the block. I cut the grey wires and spliced all 4 together. I'm getting 11.8 on everything with the key on. So I have the battery on charge. But it's brand new. I am still waiting on the flamethrower 2 coil to come, but I have the flamethrower on it, and I figure it should be enough to make it spark. I saw about 2 sparks on the plug test after I cut the ballast out, and thats it. No more sparks. I would pay like a sucker for a shop to get this right for me but nobody will tough my old boat.

you really dont understand how the ignition system works, do you? No offense intended, however 90% of people who operate boats and cars dont.

regardless if its a points style, the pertronix crap, a monkey making contact with a switch, or a hall-effect trigger on electronic ignition......the negative side of the coil is pulsed, when the voltage is removed from the primary side of the coil by that pulsing ground, the coil field collapses and that is what fires the secondary side of the coil. from there, the rotor and distributor cap distribute the over 40,000 volts to the appropriate spark plug. the amount of time the ground is connected is called "dwell" the longer the dwell, the hotter the spark

the + side of the coil is always hot when running, either at 9 volts or 12 volts (depending on what trigger and coil is used)
the dizzy is ground to the block, however sometimes there is a trigger (points, pickup or monkey) ground wire.
the trigger pulses the negative side of the coil with respect to ground

with pertronix or anything else, new doesnt always equal good

if your not getting the coil to fire, you have either a pertronix issue, or a wiring issue.

put +12 volts to the + side of the coil

take a wire to the negative side of the coil, and rapidly touch the block ground. you should have the coil firing every time you pull the wire away.

now, with the pertronix system in place and wired to +v and ground, however dont connect the coil -, with your test light connected to the coil - wire, and battery +, see if as you crank, that the test light fires with every lobe of the dizzy cam. if not, you have a bad pertronix pickup
 
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