one gallon of gasoline 2.6 OZ of the 50-1 ratio ..Ok so I will be going to the stores to pick up some Penzoil today. What is the prefers mix ratio 5 gallons of regular or high test , to how much oil please.
Next is gear oil I am changing it in all 3 of my motors what is better I don’t see it but this is what my Walmart sells
Thanks as always
Dale
Wow, I only asked again for everyone seems to have a diffrent value. I am sorry if you are tired of my trivial questions, but I have come a long way by asking instead of assuming.I am going to be blunt once again.----It is 50 parts gasoline and 1 part oil.-----Or 2% ratio.-----Or 50 ounces of gasoline and 1 ounce of oil.-----Or 150 ounces of gasoline and 3 ounces of oil.-----If you are totally unsure of this 2 stroke mixing concept and unsure of how lubrication works.-----Then read some manuals or shop for a new 4 stroke motor.in a 2 stroke.------Failure to mix properly can lead to expensive mistakes / repairs.----Sorry.
Thank you for the help and information. Appreciate all the HELP….one gallon of gasoline 2.6 OZ of the 50-1 ratio ..
I did the gear oil change 24hrs to drain it out .. then if the gear oil is dirty , use engine oil 5-20wt on the top plug and drain out the bottom plug then the oil is clean ....then pump in the gear oil , bottom gear oil port ....
That is awesome, thank you for all the great info and explaining it. I will work on it tomorrow . Today I was working on the 9,9 but I need a carb kit so it’s on hold . Back to my Johnson & Evinrude 1974 25 hp motors.Also, I use Johnson/Evinrude 2stroke oil . Also available at Walmart, and at the hardware store near my place . I’m sure it’s no better than other brands but it said Johnson and I’m a fan. Think it’s 15-20$. Gallon lasts me awhile
i did, it does spit fuel in a good flow. i even took it off and ran it with out fuel pump, but it runs and then dies. so i have to start over and double check. i did something wrong, just have to look at it again with fresh eyes.see info ...
read 3 times...then proceed to rebuilding
why not just disconnect at the carb...spin the engine to see if pump is or is not pumping out fuel
i did, it does spit fuel in a good flow. i even took it off and ran it with out fuel pump, but it runs and then dies. so i have to start over and double check. i did something wrong, just have to look at it again with fresh eyes.
thank you
Dale
funny youmention that. the tank i had was not venting. it was building up with pressure could see the tank bulging (plastic) so i ripped the little device out and fixed the issue so it will vent on its own now. the other thing is, since i did that the issues started to show up more. so i think the tank being under pressure, was forcing fuel to the motors, after the tank fix another issue came up. no fuel going to the carb bulbs or atleast replenishing it. so i did some reserach as i was told in the past from this board . i found out the fuel system is a closed system so if i end up with the primer bulb being soft and the carb has no gas init, i open the nut on the bottom of carb no gas. i can squeeze the primer bulb and gas will go to the carb no issues. so time to do more testing. the one way valve on primer bulb is not seeting properly, allowing gas to leave. fuel line at connections is leaking allowing air to get sucked into the system. hence causing the issue at hand no fuel. air is the problem getting into the fuel line system. so i orderd new connectors for the tank and motor, primer bulb. also will pick up 5/16 ID fuel line from Advanced auto. after that is replaced i will write how it worked out for me.i did, it does spit fuel in a good flow. looks like it is working OK
better to look for another cause.
hook up a small fuel supply directly above & into the carb inlet nipple and see if the engine runs with the new source of fuel.
if it does not then the problem is between the carb inlet and the spark plugs
if it runs ok... then the problem is between the pump outlet hose and the "vented" fuel tank
Walmart also has their own brand of lower unit oil which is what I use often. I think 50-1 is like 2.6? Ounce per gallon. Do yourself a favor and get a mix ratio bottle or cup. No guessing of bottle measure lines that are not that accurate. If your eyeballing use 3 oz per gallon to get close to 50-1. It's like a pint for 6 gallons I believe. Most bottles will tell you on them for like 3, 6,9, 12 gallonsOk so I will be going to the stores to pick up some Penzoil today. What is the prefers mix ratio 5 gallons of regular or high test , to how much oil please.
Next is gear oil I am changing it in all 3 of my motors what is better I don’t see it but this is what my Walmart sells
Thanks as always
Dale
You can have a bad primer ball and it causes all kinds of weird issues.funny youmention that. the tank i had was not venting. it was building up with pressure could see the tank bulging (plastic) so i ripped the little device out and fixed the issue so it will vent on its own now. the other thing is, since i did that the issues started to show up more. so i think the tank being under pressure, was forcing fuel to the motors, after the tank fix another issue came up. no fuel going to the carb bulbs or atleast replenishing it. so i did some reserach as i was told in the past from this board . i found out the fuel system is a closed system so if i end up with the primer bulb being soft and the carb has no gas init, i open the nut on the bottom of carb no gas. i can squeeze the primer bulb and gas will go to the carb no issues. so time to do more testing. the one way valve on primer bulb is not seeting properly, allowing gas to leave. fuel line at connections is leaking allowing air to get sucked into the system. hence causing the issue at hand no fuel. air is the problem getting into the fuel line system. so i orderd new connectors for the tank and motor, primer bulb. also will pick up 5/16 ID fuel line from Advanced auto. after that is replaced i will write how it worked out for me.
thank you all for the help
Dale
I should correct my self. So from what I have read and looked up the fuel pumps that are on theses types of motors only use the pulse fromi did, it does spit fuel in a good flow. looks like it is working OK
better to look for another cause.
hook up a small fuel supply directly above & into the carb inlet nipple and see if the engine runs with the new source of fuel.
if it does not then the problem is between the carb inlet and the spark plugs
if it runs ok... then the problem is between the pump outlet hose and the "vented" fuel tank
Well the suction comes from those pulses from crankcase pressure. The is not enough suction of fuel to draw the fuel up say if there was no fuel pump?I should correct my self. So from what I have read and looked up the fuel pumps that are on theses types of motors only use the pulse from
The crank case that makes the diafram pulse. I see it does
Not do to much more then that. After the motors is running it is basically a suction after that.
So I have taken the gas line off the fuel pump connected it directly to the hose that goes to the carb . It ran . But at that point all testing had to stop
When I realsied I had other issues with fuel system delivery. That is why I am replacing it all.
The one thing I have found out is if you buy cheap you get cheap. So I want to get out on the water with one of the 3 motors
By this weekend and have some fun fishing with my boys .
I will write again when I start the repairs and give an update .
Thank you all as always
Dale
i watched some videos to see about the suction or pressure depends on how you look at it, but most say 1lb, the problem is unless you hook a gage to the line and add a T so fuel can still go to motor when running. you wont feel it if you put your finger over the hole? so out of the three motors i have, none of them create enough that i can feel. then again old cracky fingers from being a worker. but seriously is there any other way to tell on the pulse ?Well the suction comes from those pulses from crankcase pressure. The is not enough suction of fuel to draw the fuel up say if there was no fuel pump?