1973 ISLANDER REFIT

[ShoestringMariner]

Hey, I saw your boat listed on the Jij! You’re a S. Ontario guy too?
I’m watching this thread with much interest!
if you need some 5/32 dis. solid rivets, I’ve got a ton in 3/8 and 7/16”. Though you probably need 3/16” diameter....

 

[DarrinT]

Cool boat and history! Hopefully you and your helper are still friends by the time you splash .

Being honest here, that's a really aggressive schedule (4mos) especially on such a large vessel. With it leaking as much as it is, you may more than just a few compromised rivets; these older models were prone to fatigue cracks in the outer chine & spray rail. Corrosion has also knocked more than a few projects off of their rails.

Lookin' forward to the tear-down to see what kind of canvas you're working with!

Zero corrosion and cracks
Boat was owned from new by a guy that only used it two weeks every August and other wise stored it indoors !!!
Bought from first owner by brother of good friend who had it for 2yrs then I bought it in 2007 for $4250 CDN
In the ad for sale I calculated that my yearly cost to buy, maintain and repower was $650 CDN !!!! You cant rent a boat of this size and capability for one day for that!!!!
Contractor buddy has worked on a reno for me and rocks.
He's a machine that likes to do ten hour days and is a perfectionist.
He lives 5 min away and I'm mostly equipped in my shop/garage.
Should work out.

 

[DarrinT]

Hey, I saw your boat listed on the Jij! You’re a S. Ontario guy too?
I’m watching this thread with much interest!
if you need some 5/32 dis. solid rivets, I’ve got a ton in 3/8 and 7/16”. Though you probably need 3/16” diameter....

Oh! that would rock . I'm on the bluffs in Scarborough.
Where do you boat and what Model

 

[ShoestringMariner]

Oh! that would rock . I'm on the bluffs in Scarborough.
Where do you boat and what Model

I’m on the other side of the GTA.
mostly small lakes in Wellington county, grey-Bruce. With trips to Huron, Lake O west of T.O. And the French River.

I’m just in a SS160.
Want an Islander someday for a big/little family

 

[DarrinT]

I’m on the other side of the GTA.
mostly small lakes in Wellington county, grey-Bruce. With trips to Huron, Lake O west of T.O. And the French River.

I’m just in a SS160.
Want an Islander someday for a big/little family

Look at Honey Harbour & Parry Sound . Tons of protected water for small craft. Used to be a canoe tripping guide out of a camp on Beausoleil Island all up and down that coast.

 

[ShoestringMariner]

Look at Honey Harbour & Parry Sound . Tons of protected water for small craft. Used to be a canoe tripping guide out of a camp on Beausoleil Island all up and down that coast.

Love G Bay! I’m not experienced enough to know those waters yet. I want to visit Bustard Islands to see the 57 chevy

 

[DarrinT]

Love G Bay! I’m not experienced enough to know those waters yet. I want to visit Bustard Islands to see the 57 chevy

Bin to the bustards from a rented cottage on Key River
Didn't see the chevy

 

[DarrinT]

Decided I'm gonna use this waterproof aluminum deck system and McGuyver it in

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cut it up to make struts and reinforce the ribs

 

[ShoestringMariner]

Bin to the bustards from a rented cottage on Key River
Didn't see the chevy

Sorry it’s the Bourchier islands. Not my pic.

 

[ShoestringMariner]

Apologies, I wasn’t trying to hijack your thread. I love talking boats and our local waters. PM me if you need a handful of rivets.

decking is an interesting choice. What about using sheet 5052 and rhino lining it?
I’m wondering if there will be torsional stresses on the planks

 

[DarrinT]

Sorry it’s the Bourchier islands. Not my pic.

Apologies, I wasn’t trying to hijack your thread. I love talking boats and our local waters. PM me if you need a handful of rivets.

decking is an interesting choice. What about using sheet 5052 and rhino lining it?
I’m wondering if there will be torsional stresses on the planks

The plan, as it's formulated currently , is to use some of the alu planks as Mcguyvered structure. Under the floor planks I could custom cut and rivet in lateral rib beams that sister for strength and level the floor.
Yah headaches to get them rivetted in right.

 

[DarrinT]

LOTSA PROGRESS !!!

 

[DarrinT]

Gonna have to either build a shelter or drag her off the trailer using a winch onto some supports - my garage ceiling is a concrete deck - very low ceiling no way she's going in on the trailer.

 

[ShoestringMariner]

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LOTSA PROGRESS !!!

That was a rude wake up call wasn’t it?

What about the fabric garage shelters? Sell it when you’re done the project?

Or keep it for dry storage?

 

[Moserkr]

My boat looked like that a few times this winter but she was stripped bare. One more storm coming this weekend and that should be it here. Hopefully your spring comes soon too!

 

[Watermann]

The major leaks are probably due to the rotten transom the IO transom assembly needs to have a solid transom or it will leak and sink your boat.

Plywood if sealed and the boat taken care of properly will last many decades and most likely a lifetime. Anything left for the elements to ravage will be ruined, nothing can withstand the elements and time, not even concrete or steel let alone a boat.

 

[DarrinT]

The major leaks are probably due to the rotten transom the IO transom assembly needs to have a solid transom or it will leak and sink your boat.

Plywood if sealed and the boat taken care of properly will last many decades and most likely a lifetime. Anything left for the elements to ravage will be ruined, nothing can withstand the elements and time, not even concrete or steel let alone a boat.

 

[DarrinT]

The transom is 99% good and solid - only one small section is rotten - one inch high and six inches long where the aluminum bracket holds it up.
When I was going to inspect her when in water I saw a major trickle coming in port side where the transom meets the side of the hull in the 90 degree join and threw up my hands cause if its that bad there then it leaks everywhere.
I beat the hell out of her - I've had nothing but air under her many times in nasty sea states!

 

[ShoestringMariner]

The transom is 99% good and solid - only one small section is rotten - one inch high and six inches long where the aluminum bracket holds it up.
When I was going to inspect her when in water I saw a major trickle coming in port side where the transom meets the side of the hull in the 90 degree join and threw up my hands cause if its that bad there then it leaks everywhere.
I beat the hell out of her - I've had nothing but air under her many times in nasty sea states!

She’ll be a wave fighting machine again!!
I saw one just like yours the other day...looking like she wanted to be hooked up and follow me home...no for sale sign on her. Watching your thread with much interest

 

[Watermann]

The transom is 99% good and solid - only one small section is rotten - one inch high and six inches long where the aluminum bracket holds it up.
When I was going to inspect her when in water I saw a major trickle coming in port side where the transom meets the side of the hull in the 90 degree join and threw up my hands cause if its that bad there then it leaks everywhere.
I beat the hell out of her - I've had nothing but air under her many times in nasty sea states!

I can only give advice based on my experience my IO Starcraft. Although I can say that older models prior to late 70's have no spray rail chine or rib end braces, IOs 18' and over are very susceptible to cracking in those areas due to the weight of cast iron. In other words check those areas closely for cracks since it leaks like a sieve after being "beat to hell". Loose rivets in the rot compromised decking and side panels on boats without the braces causes these types of hull cracking when used in that condition.

I know it seems like a huge PITA to pull a motor and replace transoms in an IO, been there. Seeing the pic above how the boat is and most likely has been stored for years leads to me to believe transom rot is going to be more pervasive than 1%. Softening of the wood and delamination is another issue plywood faces when not covered from the elements.