1966 Johnson 100 HP Sea Horse

rhudson

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Hi everyone. You have a really informative BB<br />here. I inherited a 1967 18' Larson with a 1966 100 HP Johnson on it recently from my father. The boat and motor have been in the family since they were new and have been kept in a garage, so both are in good shape on the exterior. The motor hadn't been run in two years, but cranked up first time I turned it over. It had been 15 years since I had driven in the boat, but it seemed to me that the the RPM's were a little low at WOT and the boat was a little sluggish. I took it to a local shop for a compression check and a tune up. The mechanic said the compression check registered 1)115, 2)115, <br />3)90, and 4)110. He did not do any other work to it because he felt with the one cylinder down that any tune-up would be wasted and no difference would be noticed. He has suggested either a rebuild or a new motor. The motor is turning about 4700 with a 12.5 x 16 prop at this time. The suggested range is 4500-5500. Someone suggested Engine Tuner to see if the ring on the #3 cylinder is stuck, but with a motor this old I am hesitant to try it and maybe loosen up all the cylinders. I am also worried about the availability of parts for this motor. I was told there are essentially no parts to be had for the lower unit and that new pistons, if necessary, could be very expensive. If I choose a new engine, I would like to have at least as much power that it had originally. I was first looking at 115's, but was told to be careful of the weight and torque on the transom. There are no new 100's on the market, but I was told the new 90's will deliver more torque and power to the prop than the 100 that's on the boat would have new. The boat weighs 900 lbs. and the plate on the transom designates a 115 max for the boat. Thoughts and opinions? All help will be appreciated.
 

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Re: 1966 Johnson 100 HP Sea Horse

Howdy, rhudson. You ask for opinions and comments. Here's mine. I don't think I'd invest in restoring your old 100. The newer OMC 90s and 115s are much better technology engines. They are 60 degree, loop scavenged V4s that make more power than yours did when new, and they are lighter and more efficient. If you are thinking "new", Johnson 90s are very cheap right now, but many are leery of recent troubles at OMC.<br /><br />Other options are Mercury and Yamaha 90s. Both very good engines. I don't know much about Suzuki, but many swear by them. Finally, you may want to consider 4 strokes. Yamaha and Merc seem to have the biggest share of that market and there's probably a reason.<br /><br />Good luck,<br />JB
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Re: 1966 Johnson 100 HP Sea Horse

Thanks JB. My wife and I have decided to take the plunge and repower the boat with a new engine. We have really enjoyed our time on the lake already this year and see this as an investment for family fun(My 3 yr old son and 6 month daughter love riding). We're goning to buy a 90. A tech at Johnson told me the HP ratings are measured at the prop shaft now, instead of the crank shaft when the '66 was rated. With an approximate 15% loss in power to the prop shaft, the new motor should be stronger than the old one when it was new. A tech at one of the local marine dealers said his grandfather collects old motors and might be interested in the '66. Does anyone have a guess as to what would be a fair price?
 

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That motor IS a collectable. The trick is to find the right buyer. I would throw a picture of it up on E-Bay,and see what happens also.<br />That motor put much more stress on the transom than newer ones do, so you could put a 115HP on there with no probs.<br /><br /><br />------------------<br />the Early bird get's the worm...So, he don't have to stop for bait.
 

rhudson

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Re: 1966 Johnson 100 HP Sea Horse

Thanks. I'm having a hard time deciding between a 90 or a 115. With the 100 that's on the boat, I believe the top speed used to be around 35 MPH in the mid area of the RPM range. A dealer told me that the boat hull and design could determine if any real benefit would be noticed from a 115. The boat is a 1967 Larson All American 186. The center line is 17'11" and the weight of the boat is 900 lbs. If I can get a usable performance increase that would be nice. Are the new motors balanced better to offset the extra torque over the earlier motors? From the specs the Johnson tech gave me a 115 would have the HP of about a 130-135 when they measured HP at the crank shaft. That made me leery of using this engine. <br /><br />I checked E-bay last night. It looks like I could probably get a few hundred from the old engine. We are in the process of building a workshop/storage building behind the house and I have also toyed with the idea of keeping the motor and working on it myself. I have pretty good mechanical skills and thought it might be a fun project. I am an assistant engineer at a semiconductor mfg company and spent 4 years as a mechanical tech working on laser trim systems. Are there any good books to guide you through rebuilding a 2 cycle motor? I know I will need to purchase a service manual. Will I be getting in over my head? Thanks.
 

rhudson

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Re: 1966 Johnson 100 HP Sea Horse

Forgot. The hull is a modified Vee on the Larson.
 
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