1966 9.5 johnson

nae5379

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i have a 1966 9.5 johnson seahorse, i just bought this about a month ago and i dont know a whole lot about it. i took it out the other day and reversed off the trailer and it did fine then i put it in forward and took off and got a little speed and it kicked out of gear. the motor runs fine but just wont stay in forward gear. anybody have any answers? thank you.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: 1966 9.5 johnson

(Jumping Out Of Gear - Manual Type)
(J. Reeves)

This pertains to lower units on all OMC manual shift outboard engines, or any OMC engine with lower units defined as a Shift Assist or a Hydro Electric Shift unit which incorporates a "Shifter Clutch Dog".

Within the lower unit, splined to the prop shaft is what is most often referred to as a clutch dog, hereafter simply called dog. The dog has at least two lobes protruding from it on both ends, facing both forward and reverse gear. The forward and reverse gears also have lobes built into them near their center area. When the engine is running, in neutral, the gears are spinning constantly via the driveshaft being connected directly to the powerhead crankshaft, but the propeller does not turn due to the fact that the dog is centered between the two gears, and the dog lobes are not touching either of the gear lobes.

When the unit is put into either gear, shift linkages force the dog (and its lobes of course) to engage the lobes of the gear. The lobes of the spinning gear grab the lobes of the dog, and since the dog is splined to the prop shaft, the propeller turns.

The lobes of the dog and gears are precisely machined, most with right angled edges that could be installed in either direction, and some with angles slightly varied that must be installed in one direction only (one end only must face the propeller). Dogs that can be installed in one direction only, if reversed, even if the dog and both gears were new.... would jump out of gear almost immediately. Keep in mind that the lobes are precisely machined with sharp angles!

Due to improper adjustment or worn shift linkages, but usually due to improper slow shifting, those precisely machined sharp edges of the lobes become slightly rounded. Now, with those lobes rounded, as the rpms increase, the pressure of the gear lobes upon the dog lobes increases to a point whereas they are forced apart (jumping out of gear), and due (usually) to the shift cable keeping tension on the engines shift linkages..... the unit is forced back into gear giving one the sensation that the engine has hit something, and the cycle continues.

Some boaters with manual shift engines have the mistaken belief that shifting slowly is taking it easy on all of the shifting components..... Wrong! Shifting slowly allows those precisely machined sharp edges of the dog and gears to click, clank, bang, slam against each other many times before they are finally forced into alignment with each other..... and this is what rounds those edges off! The proper way to shift is to snap the unit into gear as quickly as possible.
 

mdebar1

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Re: 1966 9.5 johnson

Before checking the clutch dog, you should drop your lower unit and check the shift linkage to make sure that the shift rods are tightened down properly and sit properly within the linkage. The shift linkage is a rectangular shaped brass piece with two screws that go through it. If there's any play in the shift rod linkage, the shift rods may be popping in and out of the linkage when the motor vibrates, thus popping you out of gear.

If it's not the shift linkage, check where the shift lever connects into the motor shroud. There's a screw near there (by the detent screw) that adjusts the up-and-down movement of the shift lever, thus adjusting how far up and down the lever needs to be pulled in order to pull or push on the shift rods.

If neither one of those, you'll have to pull your lower unit apart and check the clutch dog. You can usually find a cheap clutch dog at ebay or aomci.org. I recently swapped mine out - it wasn't very hard.
 
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