1965 evinrude lark 7.starting and controls?

[haxored542]

Well I am new to this forum and I really needed some advice Ok so i just recently purchased a lark 7. It is hard to pull the start rope and it wont turn over. Now does this motor require a starter and need it to be in the on position for it to turn over when pulling the rope?
also the engine did not come with any controls or a starter. so i have an open connector coming from the motor.
I have a starter from an old johnson but i dont know what each wire from my harness is.
Another problem is since I dont have the controls how would the electric shift work? Am i hooped?
I have 3 sets of other controls. 1 from a 68 johnson, 1 from a 55hp merc and a quicksilver one.
also the control on the right side of the motor is that the forward neutral reverse?

This motor has me so frustrated and confused Im pulling my hair out.

when i purchased it i was told it was a running motor.

If anyone could give me some insight towards this it would help alot.

 

[tx1961whaler]

Re: 1965 evinrude lark 7.starting and controls?

See if you can find the model number on the transom bracket or a small round plug on the powerhead so we'll know where to start. If there is a lever on the starboard side of the motor (right side when facing to the front of the boat) then it is a manual shift. Just because the cover says lark doesn't make it so. My cover says lark and it's no lark.....

 

[haxored542]

Re: 1965 evinrude lark 7.starting and controls?

Yeah im sorry I ment the lever is on the port side. My brain is in a jumble today. and the model number is 40572a

 

[samo_ott]

Re: 1965 evinrude lark 7.starting and controls?

Is it a 40562, 40563, 40572 or 40573? I have the parts manual if you want it. If yes, send me a PM with the model #.

Unfortunately a lot of folks say they're running when they sell em and it's buyer beware.

Are you saying there's no electric starter under the cowling as there's supposed to be one. There also is a generator according to the parts manual.

I would take off the pull starter, remove the 2 spark plugs and see if you can turn the engine over with a wrench on the crankshaft nut. Maybe spray some lube in the cylinders if it's stiff. This will at least tell you if the motor is not seized. The electric LU should default to neutral with no power applied to it I believe.

 

[tx1961whaler]

Re: 1965 evinrude lark 7.starting and controls?

The lever on the port side is for the throttle cable.
A 40572 is indeed a 1965 lark electric shift.
It came with both a generator and electric starter. The old Johnson starter may work, but it will need to have a starter solenoid that was originally in an external transom mount box.
It will need the remote controls (throttle and push button shift) made for an electramatic (not hydroelectric) motor.
If you do not have the wiring harness and controls, then you are pretty well screwed.

 

[haxored542]

Re: 1965 evinrude lark 7.starting and controls?

OK is there anyway i could use one of the controls i have and just add switch. or will that cause problems.

 

[tx1961whaler]

Re: 1965 evinrude lark 7.starting and controls?

You can maybe use the Johnson control for just the throttle and try to rig up a switch for the shifter. Does the control you have have 1 or 2 levers on it?
Does it have an ignition switch?

 

[samo_ott]

Re: 1965 evinrude lark 7.starting and controls?

I have heard where folks made their own switch box, but be careful as if you mess up the LU will be trashed. Search the forum, I think I have seen wiring diagrams before.

 

[haxored542]

Re: 1965 evinrude lark 7.starting and controls?

The johnson has 1 lever, the merc and quicksilver have 2 levers

 

[tx1961whaler]

Re: 1965 evinrude lark 7.starting and controls?

You could use the johnson box with heavy mods. The merc and quicksilver use different cables.
Before I would do too much to this motor, I would at least make sure that it has good even compression in both cylinders, spark on both cylinders, and a lower unit that shifts. Particularly the compression and lower unit part. If it has low or uneven compression, or you can't get the lower unit to shift, then I would think very long and hard about dumping any more money into this beast.

 

[haxored542]

Re: 1965 evinrude lark 7.starting and controls?

Any idea on how I would get the lower unit to shift?

 

[tx1961whaler]

Re: 1965 evinrude lark 7.starting and controls?

What kind of motor (HP) did the Johnson control come off of? Are there two cables (throttle and shift) coming out of it?

 

[tx1961whaler]

Re: 1965 evinrude lark 7.starting and controls?

Any idea on how I would get the lower unit to shift?

12 volts only to the Green shift wire is forward
12 volts only to the Blue shift wire is reverse
No volts to either wire is neutral.
12 volts to both Blue and Green at the same time breaks the lower unit.
It will shift while not running.
The electric shift lower unit uses a thinner gear oil than normal called Type C gear oil.

 

[haxored542]

Re: 1965 evinrude lark 7.starting and controls?

it was a 68 55 hp and no only one for throttle.

 

[haxored542]

Re: 1965 evinrude lark 7.starting and controls?

12 volts only to the Green shift wire is forward
12 volts only to the Blue shift wire is reverse
No volts to either wire is neutral.
12 volts to both Blue and Green at the same time breaks the lower unit.
It will shift while not running.
The electric shift lower unit uses a thinner gear oil than normal called Type C gear oil.

ok thanks.

 

[tx1961whaler]

Re: 1965 evinrude lark 7.starting and controls?

it was a 68 55 hp and no only one for throttle.

You almost got lucky. That shifter is for a hydro-electric shift gearcase, but, unfortunately, that is NOT compatible with an electramatic gearcase. The shift switch is wrong. You could use it for the mechanical (throttle) side, and rig up different shift switch.

 

[haxored542]

Re: 1965 evinrude lark 7.starting and controls?

I think I might attempt to rig something up. if everything checks out ok. Would anyone happen to have a wiring guide for that harness. And If it doesnt check out How much do you think i could sell it for. I paid 250 for boat and motor.

 

[tx1961whaler]

Re: 1965 evinrude lark 7.starting and controls?

it was a 68 55 hp and no only one for throttle.

Also, if the 1968 control is in good shape and works, it is worth something ($$). Somebody might be happy to trade you for an electramatic control.

 

[tx1961whaler]

Re: 1965 evinrude lark 7.starting and controls?

Here.

 

[haxored542]

Re: 1965 evinrude lark 7.starting and controls?

Also, if the 1968 control is in good shape and works, it is worth something ($$). Somebody might be happy to trade you for an electramatic control.

The whole 68 john is for sale It doesn't run because it needs a new power pack and the harness needs to be re wired. Half of the wiring is done. I gave up when i realized i needed a new powerpack and those arent cheap.