1963 Fastwin won't start

[Yamayer]

I bought a old fastwin 1963, was running on 1 cyl.
So i remove the fly wheel and the coil was carcked. So i put 2 new coils, was running all right, but one time a crank it, and he mist fire, a i broke the have moon pin so no more spark, so one time there, at the job i work with sand blast, so i had everything in pieces exept the motore to repaint it all, i make sure to block everything for prevent sandblast going in. i repaint it all, pretty nice now. But won't start hihihi!! I change couple old wire coming from under the magneto for new, new spark plug cable all fit in nice, i got spark and my compression is 90 on top 80 on buttom. and if i turn by hand the fly wheel, he look make spark with the mark at the good places. And when i install the buttom place when i change all the wire, i asking myself, if the buttom plate can be place at wrong place like, could be a reason that don't spark at good time like if timing is off, or there only one place that the plates could go, i clean the carb twice in case i forgot or badly clean it, won t start anyway, the only thing on choke there some gas coming out byt jet spray a bit by a hole on side of the carb. I'm still thinking is won't spark at good time, thats why if somebody could help me about the buttom plate its possible to put it at wrong place, could be like half way wrong, anyway thaks in advance, i got a 15hp mercury that running good, but, i would like to play with taht old fastwin to give him a second life ahahahahha

 

[HighTrim]

Re: 1963 Fastwin won't start

Those 2 wires are the kill circuit. If they are wired wrong, you will get no spark, so you may be onto something.

Could you post a pic of what you did>

 

[Yamayer]

Re: 1963 Fastwin won't start

I got spark, i know what you mean, and the other thing, when my pin broke, it damage a bit the magneto magnet a scratch on it, is it possible that the magnet not performed like supose with a scratch

 

[HighTrim]

Re: 1963 Fastwin won't start

Scratch should be ok....will it grab a screwdriver from your fingers and hold it vertical?

You likely broke your key because you did not torque it. Did you torque the nut to 40 ft/lbs?

 

[nwcove]

Re: 1963 Fastwin won't start

not possible to put the mag plate on wrong. you may have damaged the magnet if it took a hard hit, but i doubt that is your issue. are the coils set flush with the mounting bosses? points spotless clean and gapped to 020 ?

 

[Yamayer]

Re: 1963 Fastwin won't start

Yes the magnet hold my screw driver, and the coils are flush to the mark, but the buttom plate where the coil are sitting it, is it possible to put it at wrong place when i change all the wire than i didn't remark by error, when i remove and reinstall, like where the throttle slider is attach, could be is off set

 

[nwcove]

Re: 1963 Fastwin won't start

after the coils are removed, there are only two screws holding the magneto plate on? the only way i can see to put it on wrong would be to have it 180 degrees out, which would put the throttle slider (cam) above the spark plugs.

have you read the top secret file at the beginning of this forum?? lotsa pics and good info there.

 

[geoffwga1]

Re: 1963 Fastwin won't start

Have you made sure you have not reversed the s/plug wires?

 

[Yamayer]

Re: 1963 Fastwin won't start

i try reverse wire from spark plug and stille nothing, the only thing i read on the secret file, that about the condenser, does a condenser damage or almost dead, let me think i got spark, but not enough what is the game of the condenser it is the force of the spark, or it work or ity don t work, if i change condenser, it is possible my spark will be stronger???

 

[kfa4303]

Re: 1963 Fastwin won't start

Hi Yamayer. It's certainly possible that the condensers could be bad. Thankfully, they're cheap and easy to replace. In fact, you can get a "tune up kit" with 2 pairs of points and condensers, right here at iboats for about $25 US. If at all possible, I would rebuild the entire ignition system, by getting new 7mm spark plug wires, spark plugs (Champion J6C) and points. Inspect the coils for any scorching or cracks as well. Here's link that can walk you through the entire job.


3 HP Evinrude Lightwin Ignition System Tune-Up 1952-1967

 

[Yamayer]

Re: 1963 Fastwin won't start

i got everything new now in igniton, coils, points, condenser and spark plug 7mm wire. And now with the new condenser and wire, my spark are very muck more strong. But still not start, so i think i loose compression somewhere, just make a kind of back fire one shot when i shoot gaz in carb. I try new b8s and b6s ngk spark plug, i ll try the champion in case, if not i am really confuse all the rest its all like it supose to be a refer the manual everythings fine

 

[Yamayer]

Re: 1963 Fastwin won't start

Thank alot for your ignition system tune up file, its very good explain, about the way to timing the points, that could be my problem have a good day mister thanks alot

 

[Yamayer]

Re: 1963 Fastwin won't start

Wow i finally start my old fastwin tonight, very wierd thing i had new plug ngk B6ES AND B8ES didn t start even with good spark on plug, i try an old plug still have from when i bought the motor champion J4C, but the guy at napa tell me the b6es or b8es is good and i saw this somewhere too, so tomorrow i ll go canadian tire for 2 new chsmpion j4c, does somebody tell me why with the new ngk nothing happen

 

[lindy46]

Re: 1963 Fastwin won't start

The old Johnnyrudes seem to like the Champion plugs. I've never had good luck with other brands. If you plan to do much trolling with that motor, I'd use Champion J6C - a little hotter plug.

 

[kfa4303]

Re: 1963 Fastwin won't start

Glad you got her running! These old OMC motors love the Champion plugs. Somehow replacement plugs never work as well. Gotta remember that many modern s'plug companies didn't even exist when these old gems were being made.