12v Motorguide keeps frying switches.

Bman2895

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So I've come across a problem I can't quite figure out. Here recently this FW-FB 46lb trolling motor has killed 3 foot switches. By that I'm referring to the one under the grey button pressed by your foot. The first switch died and the trolling motor was just stuck on. So I pulled a switch I had from a spare unit and it worked fine until I set the trolling motor up on 5 and then a smoke show and it melted the wires at the pigtail to plug into the boat.

That second switch had come off an older lower thrust 3 speed motor so I figured maybe it just wasnt meant to handle the higher settings.

I Went and bought a brand new switch and fixed the pigtail. Everything was working fine for about an HR kicked it up to 5 and worked good for Abit. Then kicked It back down to 3. Still working fine. Then just setting still for a bit I went to hit the switch and nothing. No smoke or anything at first so I assumed the battery may have a weak connection. Checked that and it was fine. Turned the trolling motor on by the continuous switch to bypass the foot switch and to came on , this time a small bit of smoke came out and I pulled the plug. At first the trolling motor was completely dead. Let it cool and I again used the continuous switch and it was working. Left it on 2 and trolled the rest of the day using the continuous switch.

So before I try another switch what do you guys think is killing them? I did inspect the foot wiring and while some of the ends where alittle rusty nothing was melted or corroded. Cleaned them up. Took apart an old switch and sure enough the contactor was melted right in two. The wiring in the boat looks fine. All I can figure is too many amps drawn melts the switch? I am running a larger deep cycle, but I've not had a problem out of it in the past. Allows me more time and times between charge.

One thing I do wonder is if said battery was low enough and I hiked the speed up could that higher draw on the low battery cause amps high enough to kill the switch? I know it's a long post , but I'm honestly not fantastic with wiring and electrical so any input would be greatly appreciated.
 

mike_i

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I'm not familiar with the type of switch your dealing with, can you post a pix of one? Two things come to mind. What are the DC current rating of all of the switches? Also are the switches all rated for DC? Also make sure all wire connections are clean, bright and shiny new. Your battery should not be an issue.
 

Grub54891

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What size is the wiring from the battery to the switch/trolling motor? Undersized wiring will wreck things rather quickly.
 

Bman2895

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Here's some pics of what I've got. Could I be dealing with a motor that's just old and drawing too much? Honestly it's probably time for a new one , but id like to get what I can out of it before that investment. IMG_20211115_120846303.jpgIMG_20211115_120851745.jpgIMG_20211115_121130081.jpg
 

Bman2895

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I've found what I assume is the issue. Wires melted and shorted in the head of the unit
 

Bman2895

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To clarify. In my trolling motor there is a bulb under the direction indicator on the head. Lights up whenever the button on the foot is pressed just for low light situations. Well Motorguide decided it would be a good ideas to run said light its own power wire coming directly from the foot switch. Now this isn't some little wire. No it's the same gauge as the power wire to the motor. Anyhow it grounded out to the ground lug in the head. So whenever it would lay against the ground and you just happened to hit the foot switch at the same time it would short and in turn fry the foot switch. I fixed all the wires however I just left that power wire to the light bulb un hooked. I don't need it this time of year anyhow.
 

Grub54891

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Glad you found it. I was going to comment about the pic of your wiring, wick to me looks fine. Glad you found the issue.
 

mike_i

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Good you found the issue. Is the bolt connecting the neg cable the proper bolt? Maybe it's just the way it looks in the picture but it looks like a screw thru a nut securing the cable.
 

Bman2895

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Your exactly right it isn't the right bolt. I need to get that replaced. And I do hope it's fixed. Hoping that melted wire sitting on the ground was the issue and not just the result of the problem still un discovered.
 
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