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    Force 50 HP. Rain got in key switch. Wires smoked. Now Cranks but No Spark.

    Pretty sure the stator somehow burned. I was thinking it was reading 200V approx when cranking but I failed to notice the decimal point. It's generating 0.200VAC approx. So I would say either magnets are demagnetized (they do seem weak) or more likely somehow something weird happened to the...
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    0.25 Volts AC from stator. But ohms out ok. What to check?

    Wouldn't the AC setting on a regular multimeter give a close reading to what the stator is putting out? I realize the trigger is putting out a pretty low voltage pulse, but the stator is generating 200+ VAC if in spec. I would think that would show up at least close with a regular multimeter...
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    0.25 Volts AC from stator. But ohms out ok. What to check?

    Either the stator has failed since then or more likely I was not seeing the decimal point when taking the original measurement with the multimeter on the stator. Even without a DVA, I should be able to see a reasonable amount of AC coming through I'd think since the stator generates pretty high...
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    0.25 Volts AC from stator. But ohms out ok. What to check?

    My Force 50HP Stator coil should read around 750 ohms resistance which it does, and no continuity to engine ground. However when cranking, I'm only getting around 0.25 Volts AC from the two blue wires. I have the Pre-D model (1987). I believe I should be getting around 200VAC with a multimeter...
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    Force 50 HP. Rain got in key switch. Wires smoked. Now Cranks but No Spark.

    I have the pre-D ignition system where the two magneto shutoff wires (brown at the mag or White and Blue on the key and terminal strip) are shorted together when it turns off. My theory is the 12V Red at the key was somehow shorted to the magneto wires at the key (white and blue wires). The key...
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    Force 50 HP. Rain got in key switch. Wires smoked. Now Cranks but No Spark.

    I tested the Trigger Coils with the hand held o-scope and am getting signal but it's only 1 VAC or less. Not sure if that's ok or not. Both read the same. I'm not sure that a magnet hasn't come loose from the flywheel but probably not since the stator coil is putting out 300 VAC. I'd assume the...
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    Force 50 HP. Rain got in key switch. Wires smoked. Now Cranks but No Spark.

    I tried disconnecting the two magneto terminals on the key side the day it happened and no start. I tried on the engine side yesterday afternoon and also no spark. Going to try disconnecting and measuring the rectifier for a short or just cranking with it disconnected. I measured 300VAC from...
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    CDI troubleshooting guide says "Disconnect the rectifier". Why?? How does it effect spark?

    My understanding of CDI is: stator generates AC voltage to charge capacitor in the CDI. Trigger(s) send signal to solid state electronics to discharge with the engine's timing to power the coils producing the spark. The rectifier turns the charging coil's AC voltage into DC to recharge the...
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    Force 50 HP. Rain got in key switch. Wires smoked. Now Cranks but No Spark.

    1988 (Prior to D) model. I just measured the stator and trigger coils resistances and they seem to be in spec: 700 ohms for stator 48 ohms per trigger coil 130 ohms spark plug wire to ground The one value I'm not at all sure about is that the brown shut off wire from one CDI pack to the other...
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    Force 50 HP. Rain got in key switch. Wires smoked. Now Cranks but No Spark.

    I started this thing like normal yesterday morning but noticed smoke was let out near the key switch. When I went to restart before taking it out to the lake, I was presented with a no start condition. I pulled one high tension plug wire at a time and connected to a chassis grounded spare spark...
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    Where do you buy a gas tank pickup plate for a 50HP?

    It's my dad's and came with a Force 50HP on a pontoon. He says that the tank is an OMC P6A (Duratank). I wouldn't think the Force came with that tank but it's on a Lowe boat so maybe they preferred the OMC tanks.
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    Where do you buy a gas tank pickup plate for a 50HP?

    This things cracked pretty good. Where can I find this fuel tank bulkhead plate?
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    Gear Lube leaking at water intake when 50HP is tilted up for storage

    I just replaced the input shaft seal (the only leak I could find on the lower unit) and noticed lube coming out of the intake when the motor is tilted back down after being up for storage. I guess the new seal is also leaking... or maybe just a very slow leak that accumulates over time. It can't...
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    fuel pump diaphragm: holes and gas mix pumping in crankcase.

    Is there anything that could cause damage to the diaphragm or is this likely just routine wear and tear? I have a new one but I want to evaluate any probable causes if something could be wrong before I replace it. I wanted to use the boat this week and cut an innertube to fit as a temp fix. It...
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    How do you set the shift rod (turn buckle and lock nut) at the lower unit?

    I didn't realize this didn't have to come loose and uncoupled this rod via the turnbuckle when changing the oil seal at the input shaft. It seems to shift fine now that it's back together. I'm sure I'm close to adjusted properly just by matching up the amount of threads showing in the "before"...
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    Chrysler 15HP not as fast as a similar OMC?

    My dad tells me that he had a 15 of each brand and the OMC was a lot faster on the same boat. Is this normal or did he have a dud or poorly tuned engine?
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    Is this amount of water spraying up normal operation for a Force 125?

    The prop is really spraying up a good bit of water. Is this normal? I have some sort of fin above the prop that looks aftermarket FWIW. I think this is normal but just wanted to run it by some other boaters.
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    Sanding Points OK?

    Seems like the OMC points look a little different than say a set for a Briggs. Is it ok to sand them with 400 wet/dry paper?
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    Are these Rule 2000 Bilge pump copies any good?

    They sure look similar (at least on the outside) http://www.ebay.com/itm/311124236625...witem=&vxp=mtr Probably both made in China (although I don't know in Rule's case).
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    Engine trimmed 10-15 degress. Gas drip from top carb. Normal? See Photo.

    I started the engine on earmuffs a few days ago with the engine trimmed just a hair from straight up and down (say 12 degrees) I can see it's back spitting ever so slightly from the throttle butterfly. Is this ok?
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