Merc 3.7

Ceneves91

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Hello all,

First post here. Ive searched this to hell and i havent found anything exactly like my situation. I just bought a 1986 stingray ss 175 with a 3.7 merc 470. The kid who sold it to me told me he was out on the water and it just stopped running and was unable to get it running again. He proceeded to have the carb rebuilt, and change the plugs/wires. I got it running. First thing i did was check for spark at the distributor. I had it but i have nothing at the plugs so new points condensor coil and cap and rotor. i then corrected the firing order on the cap as they had it in the wrong order... next was timing i turned the crank until the hash mark on top of the balancer was at the 0 degree stamp on the block, i pulled the cap off the distributor and had to move the wires over one spot to get the rotor inline with cylinder 1 then i Loosened the distributor and turned it while i pour gas down the carb and my friend cranked it. it would fired a bit and not run. after i got it to where it sounded decent i pulled the fuel supply line off of the fuel pump and turned it towards the sky so i could pour fuel from a squirt bgottle directly into the carb (disconnected the fuel pump obviously) and it ran! now its time to put it all back together. poured some fuel down the carb and it would run for a few seconds, i was hoping it would begin to suck fuel and prime the system but no such luck. to the marina i went to get an inline priming bulb. primed the system (new water seperator/filter included) and vua la it ran. sounded good as well. i only ran it for 3 or 4 minutes. impellor worked even though im going to change it anyway but overall everything seemed good and it revved up fine. i turned it off and restarted it to see if it would re start and it did instantly each time. fast forward to the next day. i have to reprime the entire system. i was a bit concerned so instead of taking it directly on the water for a first run i decided to hook it up to the ear muffs. i poured gas the carb to get it started and it ran ok but then it stalled at idle after a few minutes id have to prime it to get it running aganin and it would only stay running if i applied moderate throttle. Think i have a fuel pump issue?
 

Ceneves91

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also, while running i do not see any fuel leaving the carbs jets unless i hold down the choke, then it streams... (i am waiting on the choke unit for the back of the throttle body) seems as if there is no fuel pressure
 

alldodge

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:welcome: to iboats

The fuel pump would be my first guess also, but before you go buy one make sure. First check that the anti-siphon valve in the tank is not causing to much restriction for the pump. The valve is the metal barb fitting which the fuel line is connected to. Next put a Tee fitting in line between the fuel pump and carb and measure the pressure, should be between 4 and 7 psi
 

wrestling coach

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Just for clarification. You state you placed the timing mark on the balancer at 0* on the block and then reclocked the wires and adjusted the distributor to align with #1 tower on the cap with your rotor. Are you sure #1 cylinder was on a COMPRESSION stroke when you did this?
 

Ceneves91

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Just for clarification. You state you placed the timing mark on the balancer at 0* on the block and then reclocked the wires and adjusted the distributor to align with #1 tower on the cap with your rotor. Are you sure #1 cylinder was on a COMPRESSION stroke when you did this?


Honestly no, How do i check? It runs fine when it has a fuel supply so im assuming that its hunkky dory but i could be wrong
 

wrestling coach

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Well you may have gotten lucky. But do this so you at least know where you are. Remove the coil wire. Remove #1 spark plug (closest to the front of the motor) place your thumb over the #1 plug hole and have a helper "bump" the motor using the key. When #1 comes up on a compression stroke your thumb will be forced aside by a rush of air. COMPRESSION stroke. Remember you reclocked your plug wires but at this point in time when you remove the distributor cap your rotor should be pointing at or nearly pointing at your #1 plug wire and #1 tower on your cap. Your timing mark should also be somewhere near 0* on your block. OK now you should be close enough to get the engine started so you can get a timing light on it. Next put a dwell meter on the running engine and set the dwell. Then go back a final time and check and adjust the timing once again if needed.

Dennis
 

Ceneves91

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ok soo update. have the boat hooked up to water, i disconnect the fuel line that is feeding the pump and submerge it in a clear cup of water. pour a little fuel down the carb since i cant prime it and bam i wait and let it run to see if its pulling fuel. nothing. ordered new fuel pump. i then decided to change my oil. chocolate milk. :facepalm: i pulled the dipstick when i bought the boat and looked in the fill cap and saw nothing bad the oil on the dipstick still looks good if i put it in now! but once i start pumping it out its frothy
 
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