Another happy Triumph owner posted this:::<br /><br />"wont ever own another Triumph. Nothin personal like some would like to believe,, just business! Use this sites search function and you'll see what I had to say about them. And if you need more info, just email me, I'd be more than happy to answer any and all questions about the 210, 215, 191, 190, 186 <br /><br />From 2000 to 2006 they are the same hulls, made from the same molds, using the same material, with only "cosmetic" changes to shore up the sides and back end of the hull on the 210 to try to reduce the amount of flex of the material, but they are the same no matter what year not matter what someone tries to tell you. Call the factory or contact them they'll tell ya the same thing! (that's if you can get a reply from them.....) <br /><br />For 2006 they only put more lipstick on the pig, I.e. NO changes to the hulls, and just put on heavier stainless bow rail, pedastle seats with arm rests, added a couple more cup holders,,, but still NO transom drains, fishboxes still drain into the bilge thru itty bitty holes that one squid tentacle could block up,,, and oh,, cant forget the engineering feet for the new model 215 with the "fu-gu-gu-gu-guuuuh".... divin' board deal they slap'd on the front of a 210 hull (wha-la we'll call it the 215!) <br /><br />The reason they went with the heavier and thicker Ttop and bow rail deals is, because them boats flex so much they literally crack ttop welds, they couldnt figure a way to "shore" up the hull from flexin other than, hey, let's put on a heavier Ttop. Also, screws pull out of the material (only sheet metal screws cinched down into plastic.... yeah, that holds really good... NOT!) Triumph still has refused to make changes to "improve" on that have been known issues, such as, hulls with the structural foam holding water making these boats heavier and heavier over time, refuse to factory install inner hull drains. Poor livewell design (unless yer purposely tryin to kill live bait...), Structural flex issues, Nothing is "thru-bolted" just sheetmetal screwed in. I think only the cleats have molded inserts, bow rail, hand rails, floor hatch assy's and all that are just screwed into the material..... uh.. . I'm done,, you'll see using the search deal...... the list literally goes on and on... <br /><br />The good thing about them is they discontinued the blue/gray colors of the cushions, you can smack them all day with a bat and the boat wont crack (unless you know where to hit it.... and yes, the material does crack and split, not only on mine but on alot of others), and you can ram docks and sea walls with it... You dont have to wax it or wash it, yet every Triumph owner can tell you a billion ways to clean one, get the black mold out of the materials pores, which pressure washer brand to buy, and other good stuff... <br /><br />I had a 2001 210cc and had problems with it. <br />Dealers are still buying Q2 (quality 2) boats with defects and selling them, so BEWARE!!!! <br />I know of an incident just last week where the factory made a deal to a local dealer on a new damaged boat, just so they can get rid of it (I.e. the factory that is....). Keep up the good work Troublesom,, er I meant Triumph!! <br /><br />Buying Triumph? Beware, there's alot of other boats out there for better $$ and quality. Remember, same hull boat they used to sell for new a few years back for $17,999 with 150 motor and dual axle trailer as advertised.... now with all that lipstick they put on it,,, it's worth at least $26,000 now!! <br /><br />There's a Triumph boat owner site (just do a web search) you'll find them, browse thru their posts, search this site for "Triumph Boats" as well The Triumph mafia would be on my heels if I didnt mention that or give them a chance to "sell" the boat to ya.... <br /><br /><br />here's a sample of what Triumph owners talk about: (ref. taken directly from owner site) <br /><br />Nick Taylor <br />Member Join Date: Jul 2005 <br />Location: florida <br />Posts/Thanks: 25/0 <br />Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts <br /><br /><br />Inner Hull Drain ????? <br /><br />-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br /><br />Hi All <br />I did the inner hull drain to my 210 yestarday. As Triumph instructed me to do. One inch in the transom. This hole is full of hard foam nd all I'm getting is a steady drip. It's been dripping for two days now. Is this the way it's going to happen?????? Theres no where for the water to gather due to the solid foam. Just DRIP DRIP DRIP........... <br />__________________ <br />GETTERDONE II <br /><br />Nick Taylor <br />View Public Profile <br />Send a private message to Nick Taylor <br />Send email to Nick Taylor <br />Find all posts by Nick Taylor <br />Add Nick Taylor to Your Buddy List <br /><br />#2 07-07-2005, 11:39 AM <br />LSUTIGER1947 <br />Member Join Date: Nov 2004 <br />Posts/Thanks: 17/0 <br />Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts <br /><br />Thats all mine does drip, drip, drip. GEAUX TIGERS! <br /><br />LSUTIGER1947 <br />View Public Profile <br />Send a private message to LSUTIGER1947 <br />Find all posts by LSUTIGER1947 <br />Add LSUTIGER1947 to Your Buddy List <br /><br />#3 07-07-2005, 03:56 PM <br />Putershark <br />Captain's Club Member <br />Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 <br />Location: Florida <br />Posts/Thanks: 187/0 <br />Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post <br /><br />Our old 210 streamed out water for like 3 days (I had installed 2 drains) and then dripped constant for weeks from what I recall. Then again, it had a lot of water in the hull and I could walk on the deck inside the mega hold and hear it squish around under my feet. "<br /><br />If I get a chance i'll get some pics of a Triumph this weekend that will make you not even consider one. It is a "new" 17'er, maybe 18' that is at a scrap yard on the road that leads to our lakehouse. The boat has a huge gaping split in the foward port side hull, just below the water line. This occured while sitting on the trailer, no dammage was done to cause it. The boat was derigged by the dealer, and sold for scrap per triumph instruction.
