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  • #31
    Re: trolling plate

    Originally posted by Teamster View Post
    Why wouldn't there be room for a kicker???

    we have been traveling in our camper for the last 3 months and our boat is at our son's home .... I haven't had a chance to take it to our local dealership and see if there will be room on the transom for both trim tabs and a kicker motor .... our hope is that there will be but just don't know for sure ..consequentlyntl, I'm trying to come up with a plan B .... that said, the pocketbook issue is very much in my mind .... I haven't boat an outboard since '04 so you can imagine the sticker shock ..

    Jim

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    • #32
      Re: trolling plate

      Originally posted by JEBar View Post
      we have been traveling in our camper for the last 3 months and our boat is at our son's home .... I haven't had a chance to take it to our local dealership and see if there will be room on the transom for both trim tabs and a kicker motor .... our hope is that there will be but just don't know for sure ..consequentlyntl, I'm trying to come up with a plan B .... that said, the pocketbook issue is very much in my mind .... I haven't boat an outboard since '04 so you can imagine the sticker shock ..

      Jim
      Jim, the way to size the kicker or electric trolling motor is by the range that you need to cover. You all know I'm not a fan of trolling plates but if they work for you then I won't argue the point. So let's say the trolling plate gets you down to 2.5mph. The range you then need to cover is 0-2.5 and you need to do that in a head wind and heavy chop because that would be the worst case scenario but a quite common one.

      You can usually cover that with a 8-9.9 hp motor. Top of the line will run you about 3500.00 out the door with a kicker mount if you shop it right. That will get you the basics. For a full blown Kicker setup you'll be at around 5000.00 by the time you get the remotes, steering and autopilot installed. If you opt for electric, go with a bow mount and I'd suggest the Minn-Kota Power Drive V-2 in a 80lb range with the iPilot and two Group 27 batteries in either 24v or 12v (parallel) configuration. That gives you the remote control, GPS autopilot and cruise control for around 2000.00 including installation. It also gives you much better control of the boat in wind and waves because a puller will manage the boat much better than a pusher.

      The draw back to the electric is needing to recharge the batteries. You can do that with a 2500w generator or pull the boat out and plug it in. You can also haul out the batteries and take them ashore for charging. I find I get about 8 hours of troll time with all my electronics running on two 27's. That's not running the stereo. With a gas kicker you just run it off your main tank but you can't run both at the same time unless your fuel tank has dual pickups. If you try it with a T you'll lean out one of the motors.

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      • #33
        Re: trolling plate

        Originally posted by Jlawsen View Post
        You all know I'm not a fan of trolling plates but if they work for you then I won't argue the point.

        You can usually cover that with a 8-9.9 hp motor. Top of the line will run you about 3500.00 out the door with a kicker mount if you shop it right. That will get you the basics. For a full blown Kicker setup you'll be at around 5000.00 by the time you get the remotes, steering and autopilot installed.

        excellent advice .... don't believe we will go all the way with an autopilot level setup .... the reason for selecting the Evinrude 15hp E-TEC it is the smallest I could find in a brand I like that is made in this country which is important to me .... the Mercury and smaller Evinrudes are no longer made here .... a trolling plate would be my last resort .... have never used one but somehow I just don't like the looks of them .... I do know a couple of fellows who use them and they do see to be happy .... your $5,000 estimate seems to be pretty close and with that amount of money involved I'm really trying to do my homework

        Jim

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        • #34
          Re: trolling plate

          For the life of me I can't figure how there would not be room for a kicker and trim tabs on any boat,.......???

          The new 15 horse E-Tec is a good choice, I see they now have a integrated trim/tilt,....

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          • #35
            Re: trolling plate

            Originally posted by Teamster View Post
            For the life of me I can't figure how there would not be room for a kicker and trim tabs on any boat,.......???

            The new 15 horse E-Tec is a good choice, I see they now have a integrated trim/tilt,....
            When you mount a kicker you mount it on a kicker plate with a setback. It'll clear just fine. I make mine out of aluminum and build them for the setback I need. You can buy them in various setbacks and some are adjustable.

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            • #36
              Re: trolling plate

              Originally posted by Teamster View Post
              For the life of me I can't figure how there would not be room for a kicker and trim tabs on any boat,.......???

              The new 15 horse E-Tec is a good choice, I see they now have a integrated trim/tilt,....

              there may well be plenty of room and I sure hope you are correct .... I've never undertaken a project like this so I have no reference points on which to rely .... no Evinrude dealer I've visited has had a 15 hp E-TEC in stock for me to look at but as you note, the reports I have heard are very favorable .... I do know that any kicker would have to be mounted on the same side as the steering wheel .... with my weight and that of the motor the trim tabs would be absolutely essential

              Jim

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              • #37
                Re: trolling plate

                Originally posted by Jlawsen View Post
                When you mount a kicker you mount it on a kicker plate with a setback. It'll clear just fine. I make mine out of aluminum and build them for the setback I need. You can buy them in various setbacks and some are adjustable.

                I have seen a few kicker motors mounted via using a setback plate .... hopefully one that would work is available for our boat

                Jim

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                • #38
                  Re: trolling plate

                  Panther Marine makes some nice kicker mounting brackets,...

                  Last week I fished the FLW Walleye Tour as a amature and saw lot's of neww 15 horse E-Tec kickers, They seem to work very well,...

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                  • #39
                    Re: trolling plate

                    Originally posted by Teamster View Post
                    Panther Marine makes some nice kicker mounting brackets,...

                    Last week I fished the FLW Walleye Tour as a amature and saw lot's of neww 15 horse E-Tec kickers, They seem to work very well,...
                    The technology is sure well above the others. I wonder if that's why Yamaha discontinued their famous 8hp kicker. The only thing I've heard derogatory about any of the E-Tecs lately is that it can be difficult to get parts. That may just be fallout from the first couple of years when they were still working out the bugs. I haven't heard of anyone complain about them breaking down lately and if they don't break why sweat parts? I like Evinrude for taking a big risk and giving us a choice. I still run Merc's but hey, that don't mean I'm smart.

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                    • #40
                      Re: trolling plate

                      I've never actually seen an E-TEC 15 .... I have friends and relatives in the upper Midwest who use them and are very happy with their performance .... they also say they are very fuel efficient .... when I first started researching kicker motors I looked at Merc 9.9's and would have probably gone that route until I learned Merc has moved their production to China .... the E-TEC 15 is still made in the US

                      Jim

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                      • #41
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                        I put a trolling plate on a 5 horse motor. we I tried to use it the boat just went in a cirle. how to fix it

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