1997 Johnson 25hp. how to recoil manual starter.

RR215

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I had one of the smaller pawl springs break on the recoil mechanism last summer. It worked perfect untill the rope slipped out of the handle end and into the recoil unit. Now as i pulled it back out and put the handle back on, the rope does not recoil 100% back into the coil....maybe just half way.

I have looked at the parts diagram, but not sure how to fix this. Is this a hard job if you pull off the recoil unit from the top of the motor? Any help is much appreciated.
 
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Re: how to recoil starter on 97' 25hp. motor?

Re: how to recoil starter on 97' 25hp. motor?

what kind of motor?
 

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Re: how to recoil starter on 97' 25hp. motor?

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(Manual Starter Cord Installation -Over The Flywheel Type Only)
(J. Reeves)

For what it's worth, my method of installing a new cord on the over the flywheel type manual starters is as follows.

Arms outstreched (approx 6'), I cut a proper size nylon cord that length, tie a figure 8 knot in one end, then melt the ends with a flame to prevent unravelling, using a rag to form a somewhat point on one end. No cord in manual atrter pulley.... wind pulley to it fullest point. Keeping a good grip on the pulley, let it slide back to where the cord hole in the pulley aligns with the manual starter housing cord hole, then install the cord.

Now, keeping a good grip on the cord, slowly let the manual starter rewind pulling the cord in. In most cases, the cord will be too long so install the pull handle accordingly so that the handle retracts completely.

This is the way I've performed this procedure for quite a number of years and regardless of the design of the pulley, I encountered no problerms.
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(Manual Starter Assembly)
(This pertains to the type of Manual Starter Housing that sits over top of the flywheel)
(J. Reeves)

Lay the manual starter housing upside down on the workbench.

Wind the spring in your hands so that you can lay it into the housing, having the outer spring end hooked over the retaining pin. Make sure the spring is in there properly (You do not want it to fly out of there).

Holding the spring down, with pliers carefully bend about 3" or 4" (more or less) on the inner portion of the spring in towards the center of the housing. This will allow the pulley pin to enter the retaining hole at the end of the spring properly.

Lay the pulley down over the spring, making sure that the pin on the pulley is secured to the retaining hole on the end of the spring. Install the spindle (center bearing gizzmo), bolt, nut, etc, whatever your particular manual starter may use.

The cord (nylon) should be roughly 72" long. Have a figure 8 knot in one end. Heat the other end so that you could form a point on it, wiping it with a rag when it's burning or hot to a melting point.

Now, with the starter housing still upside down, keeping a firm grip on that starter housing and also the pulley, start winding the pulley in the normal counter clockwise direction. Wind it as far as it will go, then carefully let it back off until the starter pulley cord hole is aligned with the housing cord outlet.

Hold the pulley there and insert the cord in through the inside of the pulley and out through the starter housing. Pull the cord through completely and get a good grip on it. Now let the pulley retract the cord, but hold onto the cord (don't let it fly in there).

If it's obvious that the cord is too long, figuring what will be needed within the handle, shorten it as needed.

Pull the cord out so that about two feet of the cord is exposed. Tie a slip knot so that the cord can't retract back.

Insert the cord into the handle and secure as needed, then release the slip knot allowing the cord to be withdrawn fully. That's all there is to it..
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Re: how to recoil starter on 97' 25hp. motor?

Re: how to recoil starter on 97' 25hp. motor?

what kind of motor?


The motor is a 1997 Johnson J25REUM Manual start.

After looking at the parts diagram, I was not sure I wanted to take apart the recoil mech. Thanks for your help Whoopbass, hope your response still applies now that I have given better info on the prob.

Here are some pics.

1997Johnson-J25REUM.jpg


ManualRecoilSystem.jpg
 

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Re: how to recoil starter on 97' 25hp. motor?

Re: how to recoil starter on 97' 25hp. motor?

This is the way I've performed this procedure for quite a number of years and regardless of the design of the pulley, I encountered no problems.


Well, your post did the trick for me on a Evnirude 25902d. I had looked everywhere, kept reading the same thing over and over...clockwise this, upside down becomes counterclockwise, etc. But your post finally helped things click and I realized to keep the cord out of the equation until I had recoiled the spring...THEN put the cord in to place. I kept thinking I had to stick it on top of the flywheel with tension and slide it into place to catch. Once I read your post I realize the CORD goes against the tension...and then it was easy to place it on top of the fly wheel.

This guys pictures also helped: http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/03/r/columns/max/09/index.htm because he said it was done...and it was still sitting on the concrete...so that's when I went looking for more info...and finally found your post.

Thanks!

Now I can get back to figuring out how to start the beast!

Drew
 
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